Every time I see her.
That's part of the problem as well, as knowing she has mouth pain made me reluctant too. (and it is definitely real pain)
Surely, I deserve that. And I mean that. But that was yesterday, so I can only go from today forward. 10 minute rule makes sense.
LTR material and become more hesitant to get sexual. Females tend to think that if the "give it up" too easily then it's more likely that the guy will disrespect her. If she thinks he's LTR material now (especially since he didnt try to make a move = nice guy), it may take longer to get her to escalate.
"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."
Thanks for the clarification. That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for me, really. I do like her. And I may also already be there.
It did get me to thinking... 3/5 of my LTRs started with sex on the first face to face meeting. (And I'm kind of arbitrarily calling an LTR one year or more of exclusive dating.) The other 2 must have been 2nd or 3rd meeting.
Right now, I have one primary dating relationship and a few other girls that come and go. I'm honest with all parties, although some want to know more details than others. If this particular girl and I wound up as friends, it would be something I'd sincerely value. That won't happen without her respecting me, but neither will anything else.
I just responded with "me too -petname-, see you soon." There are no future plans at this point, but I'll let her get her things done and go from there.
Thanks for your advice, and I'm happily accepting more from you guys, or anyone else who has thoughts to share.