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    Default Progress... kind of

    I'm slowly starting to build my online game,and I have a decent rotation of canned openers mixed with more personalized ones based on the type of girl she seems like and my initial response rate has improved greatly. I still get a lot of girls who view my profile after my opener and don't respond. Views from my opener are probably like 70%, responses closer to 20% (shit pictures, maybe profile, I know).

    That said, I still can't seem to constantly get past the second message and keep her hooked. Tried testing a diff "canned"... here's my first response to this one:

    Me: After a rigorously brief overview of your profile I wanted to let
    you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

    Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories... you will always
    have a special place in my heart.
    Your ex-hubby,

    P.S.
    You can keep the dog and I will keep the house in Hawaii =)

    HB7.5 : Glad I could do that for you.


    ... not what I expected, where do I go from here? Or even second messages in general?

    Girls I have made it past the second message with I am 3/5 n-closing, dates with 2 of them.

    I gotta get all these percentages up!

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    Default Re: Progress... kind of

    I have decided to put our differences aside, and give you a shot.

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    Default Re: Progress... kind of

    By the looks of it, it sounds like you ended up with a bag egg. You could try pulling a few more moves on her, but I would just recommend moving on to a different target. There's nothing wrong with your opener. It certainly is different, and it's quite playful. My only potential issue with it is that it's very long

    To answer your question directly, continue to play with her and expand off of what you've already gotten. Say something like "Scratch that, I'm keeping the dog and the house. You can have that rusty old thrift shop banjo you always so dearly loved"
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    Default Re: Progress... kind of

    divorce seems like a strong word that you don't want to use, "break up" could work better

    also this is just for swagman

    "Swagman has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."

    how come?

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    Default Re: Progress... kind of

    I saw that and I was like "Wait, what hyp?" And then I realized what you were getting at. I'm sorry dude, I didn't realize my settings were set to only contacts and administrators. Then again, I don't know why you weren't one of my contacts to begin with. Both have been corrected
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    Default Re: Progress... kind of

    Quote Originally Posted by blitz8 View Post
    Me: After a rigorously brief overview of your profile I wanted to let you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

    Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories... you will always have a special place in my heart.
    Your ex-hubby,

    P.S.
    You can keep the dog and I will keep the house in Hawaii =)
    Alright, I really like your style, but here's what I think is going on: You're skipping to message 3-10 right from the beginning, that is, you're getting too comfortable too quick.

    Most girls have a sh1tty sense of humour, or you have to warm them up to yours. Similarly, sarcastic humour has a very hard time of being conveyed through online dating. I know this because it's my favourite kind of humour lol! I struggled with it in the beginning.

    I appreciate your humour in the message, but I'd change the final blow to a much softer one. Don't make it so official and final: "I have... divorced you", "imaginary memories", "ex-hubby"

    I see the intention with the smiley face ending it, but otherwise, what kind of emotional responses does that bring out of a woman? Think about it for a second . Seriously, I've tried this sh1t with chicks who clearly put "I'M SARCASTIC" in their profile, and yet they end up taking sh1t way to seriously so don't push it too early!

    My spin on it (for what its worth):
    After a [deleted (the irony might confuse dumb women)] brief overview of your profile I wanted to let you know I have already married you [because you like surfing] but we broke up because [because you hate cats].

    Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories... you will always
    have a special place in my heart.
    [Yours Truly (ex, just like divorce, has such a bad connotation)]

    P.S.
    [I'm keeping the cat since you hate him anyway] =)

    This guys response was short, but sweet and it stood out to me for some reason!:
    Quote Originally Posted by ConversationallySpea king View Post
    I have decided to put our differences aside, and give you a shot.
    Try throwing that in there somewhere too!

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    I feel like I was pretty critical, so I'm sorry if this sounds arrogant Good luck!
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