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    Question Calling didn't work so well...

    So I met this Romanian chic and got her number. Following a few rules I came across about texting game from books like "the text and Phone Game' . I initiated a conversation with a quirky message on first day. her whatsapp pic was a cat and I started chatting about her cat and from there here favorite painter and stuff.
    Here I made first mistake, I didn't break rapport when the conversation was at a high point and unfortunately I guess she got bored and did not reply to one of my messages.

    So on day two i thought I'd try new game - Send her a question msg and follow by calling her up. If she replies to question means she is not busy and will pick up call.
    Well i sent her a message - do you have a twin sister.. boom she replied no..i don't...
    so i called her in 5 minutes.. no reply. called again ..no reply.
    ME: i see someone similar to you.
    she msgs- why did you call.
    Me: to check if that person is you. I didn't freak you out ..did I.
    No reply
    Me: Hows your cat.
    No reply.

    So i didn't msg her anymore to maintain my value.
    Now the way I see it , this textbook approach I used from book , how can I improve this , because I do believe having a voice call is way more effective than txts and I had a good conversation going with this chic before.
    May be i should have send her a msg before calling saying- "hold on, will call u in 2 min", so i don't freak her out completely.
    Or may be next time I should call next day itself.
    Or may be should have kept messaging for few more days , though i think the more days its texting the more it kills chances of a date.
    Also can you suggest anyways to restart texting her without coming across desperate. Like msging - " So are you still ignoring me". Or send her a msg like nothing happened before.
    What do you guys think, what went wrong and what can be done better next time.Suggestions guys.

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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    Dude, you called her 2 times when she didn't answer.
    She got the missed call. If she wanted to call you, she would of.

    You played off real creepy. I honestly do not mean that offensively but you messed up by getting excited you had a good text conversation and you didn't leave it in the excitement level but you left it off at the boring level.

    Also, first time text conversations should be simple and easy and funny. I was not there or nor did I read your texts so I am not going to say they weren't funny, but talking about painters?

    Keep them simple and funny and short to build up to a hang out. Not to explore the depths of love and life through modern day painters.

    Also... that whole twin sister thing, I don't like it whatsoever.

    You should of went with another text to reignite the "fun" and "excitement" and not just ask if she had a twin and then when she didn't answer call her again. Then when she did respond, you said you just wanted to make sure it wasn't her. That is what a chump would do, and you do not want to be a chump

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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    I want you to sit back two seconds and think of this: ''How's your cat'' just imagine someone else asking you that. Yeah.. Thought so.

    You should drop the question asking games and go with something more fun. You arn't an investigator to ask so many questions. You should call someone if you have plans, nowadays a simple chitchat on the phone to some people is wierd that's my most people text, but those get boring fast. What should be done is a text game, call for a hook up and see her after. But before you do all that you should really pratice your conversational skills. ''How's your cat''

    But you sounded needy to me in a way, calling her twice and texting her random stuff its kinda creepy. Don't worry that type of stuff happends to everyone who's new to gaming.

    Train your conversational skills.
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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    I know in the hindsight it looks super creepy ,but to tell you frankly I was just following the "Kezia Noble-Test and phone game".
    I called her twice coz as per the book one should immediately call up a girl agin if she does not pick up first time as most of the time women have there phone in their bags. Now I kno it was not a smart move.
    Well the whole painter thing was brought up by her and I showed intrest at the same time disagreed with her to show I have a different opinion. And I did change the opinion to something funny .

    The twin message , I took it from the book just to see if it works. Hmmm.. would say got her attention but may be not enough to pick up my call. I said i was checking if its her I am seeing coz I thought it would not look too creepy.
    And as far as asking questions, it turned that was the only way I could make her msg. On first day quiet a few times I left open ended messages waiting for her to fill in, but she did not reply. Only times she replied was when i would ask a question (And she would reply quickly.. suggesting she was not minding the all questions thing). Frankly I was myself getting bored of asking questions to keep the conversation going coz she was not giving anything from her end.

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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    And I would say this time I followed step by step the way it was in the book. I know it varies from girl to girl but than it is really difficult to gauge that . Still thanks for your inputs guys. Texting to getting her on date seems to be the biggest hurdle in my case , so I am experimenting different approaches.

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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    And that's why I don't follow any Game, routine or what not. I come up with stuff on the spot. Keeping it natural to me is the way to go because think about it.. You read something over on the internet and try it out. It might work it might not. In this case scenario well.. How's your cat killed it totally. (Sorry I keep repeating it I find it funny, haha)

    Here's what I think you -should- try.

    Keep your game natural, not scripts no strings everything comes your head. Analyze your situation and stay with it, come up with stuff she could relate to and make it funny.

    I talked to this friend and talked about the day we've meet, bout 16 yr old. She was going out with a friend of mine and I teased her on how she kept kissing with her eyes open. A slick sexy chat after that and back to normal. Keep to your own game, you'll do good.
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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    Quote Originally Posted by popye007 View Post
    And I would say this time I followed step by step the way it was in the book. I know it varies from girl to girl but than it is really difficult to gauge that . Still thanks for your inputs guys. Texting to getting her on date seems to be the biggest hurdle in my case , so I am experimenting different approaches.
    Don't do it no more.. Keep it natural seriously. There is no book in the work or method basicly NOTHING that will be step by step intsruction jibber jabber that will get you anywhere when it comes to girls. Its a human being not an Ikea desk. You need experience and you gain it with Errors and successes, learn from this. Examine what you've done wrong and fix it. Don't sob about it or you wont go anywhere
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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    Well I whole heartedly agree that Step by step approaches and game don't work. Though funnily , "Hows your cat" was not from any book that was just a savior question I tried to quickly change the topic.
    The bad part is as much as we all want to keep it natural , at least I have always noticed similar pit falls - 1.loosing interest after few initial texts even if the conversation is funny
    2. If the texting happens for more than two days without arranging any date , she has forgotten you and chances of meet up are rare.
    3. No interest in coming out on a date just by text chats.
    If the girl genuinely liked you when you got her number than none of those three would happen , but if you got her number and now trying make things interesting you have to do something out of ordinary . In my case I tired to change the pattern by trying to see if a voice call can help, coz on a voice call you can demonstrate value and get her on date. With texts things are slow and take time...

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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    Dude.. Girls don't need to girl you there number, not everyone is going to like you neither. You shouldn't be crazed cause you got a number neither its just a door to meet a new person and I strongly disagree with #2. Everything in women -ERRTHANG!- varies and it all does from what your first impression was.

    I meet this girl once and she didn't have any phone so.. What was there to do? Facebook, we facebook chat for 2 weeks before arranging a night out to a club. And she ended up at my place later after. What I did was get to know her through facebook since I had no choice, I was too busy and she lived 30 minutes away from where I live +! I don't even have a car.

    Read this up http://www.puaforums.com/how-flirt/2...ting-tips.html I seen it just now and this is great for beginners and is easy to translate these to texts.

    Basicly bro, just read up on stuff that girls like, dislike about guys. What makes them attracted to guys (Not physicly) and body language. Just from that thread you could have a good idea for your next texts. PUA is an art not a step by step procedure. You want to be good, be an artist and do your creativity a change.
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    Default Re: Calling didn't work so well...

    Thanks a lot OhSnap... Just one quick question.. I am definetely not leaving it here.. I am going to text her again (Since i dont have anything to lose here.) .So do you have any tips..like what should I start with.. I am certainly going to behave as nothing happened.


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