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    Default Crash and burned myself b/c I was annoyed but I think she responded well?!

    This HB8 has hijacked my brain for the past month ÖOkay here we goÖ


    Girl in my class Iíve known for 2 months now. We went out to dinner once but she thought it was just as friends cause when I asked I said ďnot as a date but letís go to blahblah Friday nightĒ (dumb AFC move I know but I was just trying to get 1 on 1 with her). Long story short I found this site and read the game since then, wish I would have known before. Started doing kino and flirting a lot more. Kept trying to get her out on a second ďdateĒ but she ALWAYS had an excuse. I must have asked 10 different times whether it be a party, lunch, dinner, hangout etc. She asked for a raincheck once and other times sounded sincere with her excuses. Since flirting and initiating kino I feel like Iíve built some attraction.


    Last night I invited her out to the bar. Told her I was going with a big group which consisted of mainly girls so sheíd fit in. She said they werenít HER friends so sheíd feel weird but was gonna try and convince some of hers to go. Asked me if I was definitely going (took this as an IOI) cause she didnít know what she wanted to do. She didn't text me so I figure she wasnít coming, then as weíre getting on the bus that takes us to the bar, she walks on! I was like WTF lol.


    She saw me sitting with 2 girls which was perfect (hopefully got her a little jealous) then at the bar I didnít really talk to her until the end. I was pissed she didnít let me know she was coming plus I was busy drinking with the group I came with. Iím pretty sure she saw me multiple times talking and flirting with different girls so Iím hoping that got her jealous too. End of the night I talked/flirted/kinoíd with her and the vibes were good. I asked her why she didnít tell me she was coming and she told me she thought she did (lying? Trying to surprise me? Overthinking this? - Probably). I drunk texted her afterwards saying come over lets have fun, and then told her i forgot to close my tap out. She could have ignored me but she replied with: ďhaha u drunkÖglad u liked my lipstick and clean hair Ē


    So this morning I was texting her and found out she couldnít convince her friends to go but joined another small group that she knew was going (should I take this as an IOI? I mean was she trying to come cause she knew Iíd be there? Who knows). Anyway, I couldnít remember the night in detail, like what I talked about with her. I remember doing a lot of kino and push/pull though which felt good to me.

    Today I asked if she wanted to grab a quick lunch and she said she already ate, typical. I was pissed lol. So around 6pm I said fark it, no more mind games I want ANSWERS and decided to crash and burn myself just so I could stop thinking about her. But I didnít crash and burn like I thought, and actually now my head is clear and I can think straight for the first time in a month! Hereís our convo word for word, I was mad and didnít give a fark about what I said to herÖ

    Me: Alright. I canít focus on anything so I gotta ask u. Dinner Wednesday night. Yes or no
    Me: Last time Iím gonna ask u out. And I donít mean as friends. Hit me straight no fluff
    Her: No fluff?! But I love fluff.
    Her: No I guess Iíll have to decline I donít go to dinna with anyone as anything but frands
    Me: So how do u date
    Her: I donít
    Me: So if I said as friends youíd go? Not that I want to anymore but Iím curious
    Her: haha yiikkes
    Her: And then yeah I woulda gone
    Me: But if we go as friends then Iím in the friend zone
    Her: Itís the only zone I have
    Me: Which is no fun
    Her: Sooo guess no dinner
    Me: Maybe itís just me but I thought we had a little chemistry lately
    Me: Can u confirm that so I can get u off my mind
    Her: Iím sorry Iím at miss Millersville haha and let me tell ya its horrible
    Her: But ya, I donít really know what to say to that. I thought weíve just always gotten along pretty good since we met
    Her: I just didnít think much into it cause Iím not into dudes, I think youíre all liars & cheats so Iím just frandly with your kind
    Me: Well Iím attracted to your personality. And your looks are a bonus
    Me: Iíd love to go to dinna as just friends. But Iím a guy so naturally I want you for dessert
    Her: Hey thanks! But I canít give ya dessert so donít wanna be a tease. Nobody likes a tease
    Me: Are u really not into dudes? Or were you kidding
    Her: Iím not not into dudes Iím just not really interested in them
    Her: Does that make sense
    Me: I still want to go to dinner Wednesday night. No dessert tho donít worry
    Her: Well now I donít wanna if thereís no dessert
    Her: hey hey and I have bootcamp 6-7 then bible study at 8 haha
    Me: Omg lol. I give up
    Her: hahah we hang out already as it is twice a week for 1hr 15 mins thatís more than I hangout with anyone! And if we do anymore youíll begin to hate me
    Me: Why will I begin to hate you? I wonít ever see you again after I graduate (in 6 weeks)
    Her: haha because Iím only fun in small doses
    Me: Pick a night to go out this week
    Me: And Iím fun in big doses so weíll balance each other out
    Her: hahaÖbut are you? Maybe YOU just think that
    Her: Maybeee Thursday?
    Me: No shut up Ms. Fluff lol. Iím the most honest, tell-it-to-your-face type of person youíll ever meet
    Me: And I canít show u that in class or over text. I need to be in person outside a classroom
    Her: haha no I can tell you need a muzzle
    Me: Sit on my face then thatís a muzzle
    Her: haha omg
    Her: Iím showing this to our teacher and youíre suspended
    Me: To me, strangers are nice and friendly to each other. So when 2 ppl get to know each other I think they should be direct and forward. As long as they trust each other and are comfortable w each other
    Me: And Iíve been trying to build that trust/comfort for the past month. So thatís why this convo isnít awkward
    Her: Yeah well I think weíve become besties thatís why itís not awkward
    Me: Besties who donít hang out ever
    Her: And the friend zone doesnít suck that bad
    Me: Itís worse than stubbing your toe and getting hit in the balls simultaneously
    Her: haha no its not. Not when itís with me
    Me: Well prove me wrong cause right now I want out
    Her: haha ya canít get out your stuck forever
    Me: haha Iíll just delete your number and change my seat in class
    Her: Iíll follow you. Duh
    Me: hahaha creepy
    Her: Iím a LMN girl of course Iím a little creepy (lifetime movie network)
    Me: If weíre besties then u should have no problem coming over to watch LMN
    Me: I know your prob thinking Iím trying to get u over and hangout all the time to have sex and sh1t but youíre wrong
    Her: should I be offended?
    Me: I feel a connection & want to talk about so many different things w you but I canít in class/over text
    Me: And thatís why Iíve been going crazy cause idk if youíre lying or not
    Her: Thatís not why, it always seems like I make up excuses I swear theyíre all legitimate plans I have Iím not scuuured of you (I was happy to hear her excuses were legitimate)
    Me: And I tell my friends and theyíre like dude give up and Iím like no I think sheís being honest. Itís the connection. F*cking crazy. I have a 6th sense
    Me: And good I donít want u to be scurred of me. I want u to be able to talk to me about ANYTHING lol
    Me: Cos our personalities are eerily similar. And no donít be offended I would fark your brains out if u told me to lol
    Me: Rant over. Damn that felt good lol
    Her: Haha my o my
    Her: I think we get along real well I donít disagree with ya there
    Me: Good. Idc about dinner anymore. Thatís just an excuse to hang out
    Her: Do u work wed?
    Me: Maybe why. Whatíd u have in mind wrinkles? (I tease her about her dry hands)
    Her: I have my interview and will stop by after if youíre working
    Her: And donít call me wrinkles!
    Her: Iím going to my dermatologist thur
    Me: ok Iím calling you fluff then. Why u going to the derm?
    Her: So he can look at the pimples near my eyes (she doesnít have pimples, they are microscopic dots sheís a hypochondriac)
    Me: Youíre crazy. Theyíre stress pimples
    Her: Noooo theyíre not. They an allergic reaction
    Me: Yeah to not having sex lol aka stress pimples
    Me: Iím sure u did a self-diagnosis on web MD tho (she does this a lot)
    Her: I did itís from my cheap mascara!
    Me: You could get away with not wearing makeup ya know
    Her: I neva do wear makeup during the week duh

    Responded 30 mins later withÖ
    Me: Wait so are u free any nights this week
    Her: Maybe thur we can hang out after my night class
    Me: You still have a raincheck for mill creek (place I go to drink but she asked for a raincheck last time)
    Her: Is that your plan for thurs
    Me: dunno I donít really make plans I live in the moment cause of my senioritis. But ya weíll try and do something thurs night fluff
    Her: Well get over it u have 6 full weeks left and oookay

    I have class with her tomorrow so Iím gonna flirt and kino as usual. Iím glad I did this. Now she knows EXACTLY where Iím coming from and it feels like 200lbs off my shoulders.
    My game plan is to start hanging out with her, keep being brutally honest, kino, drop sexual innuendos, and being as alpha as I can. She knows I want her, but knows I also really like her for who she is, which is true Iím crazy for this chick. From what I know she really doesnít talk to other guys, and really does only hang out with her girlfriends. This girl isnít normal. Sheís all about school first, girlfriends second, worrying third, and guys arenít even on her list it seems like. But Iím determined and my gut feeling tells me I can get her eventually.

    Iím a little mad because I STILL DONíT KNOW if sheís into me! Am I retarded? What do you guys think? Comments, criticisms, advice, etc. would be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Decided to crash/burn myself to get closure. But Idt I crashed or burne

    Man that was a long post! You need to reread the game because there is no attraction there. She is not attracted to you the way you think and is just trying to be polite and not hurt your feelings. I guarantee if a badboy or just an alpha man met her she would be into him and go out with him. But you are a beta man and nice guy and you have a problem of not being able to walk away from a losing situation. You have asked her 10 times and 10 times she always had an excuse of why she couldn't go out (begging). So my advice is if you still want this girl then you will have to show her a different side of you. Daltonbrayall posted this week something that may help you to accomplish this so take a look at it and give it a try. At this point you have nothing to lose. See other women, have some fun, and work on your game because this one will keep your head spinning. Good luck!

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    Default Re: Decided to crash/burn myself to get closure. But Idt I crashed or burne

    Yeah I hear ya man. I'm definitely not walking away cause I have nothing to lose. I think I'm gonna be direct with her and talk sexual so she can imagine doing sexual things with me. I need to plant that seed in her head cause she doesn't see me in that way. Fark it it's like an experiment now. Any specific things I can do/say to trigger that?

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    Default Re: Decided to crash/burn myself to get closure. But Idt I crashed or burne

    You an say everything you want, it won't matter. You want to plant your seed in her little garden, but her, as a well known gardener, sensed your seed is a fucking wussy, so she closed the doors of her garden, which means you'll have to plant your seed anywhere else.

    Really there's nothing you can do. The more you do, the more you will creep her out. Simply stop talking to her and come back to her a couple of weeks from now and then be a man. If you do it right, and I bet you will, she'll be attracted to you, but only then, not now.

    Best of luck mate, remember, take your seed and plant it anywhere else, you know the mistakes you've done, act accordingly

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    Default Re: Decided to crash/burn myself to get closure. But Idt I crashed or burne

    Thanks man good advice. Yeah I have to cut all communications with her except in class. Couldn't freeze her out before cause I wanted to talk to her all the time (AFC). But now it should be easier cause I'm like fark it. I'm still learning, this site is awesome.


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