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Thread: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

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    Default FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    Hey, new here. Have an interesting little chat thing here from a chick I met on facebook. We have a few mutual friends but I've never met her before. Kind of rediculous in the beginning, but she responds and qualifies herself. Maybe I should have asked for the number earlier. I'm thinking of leaving it alone at this point - I've done most of what I can. I can't tell if she's attracted to me or she's just afraid of the unknown (hanging out with some "random dude"). I know I've been persistant (she responds to me), but will not make time to hang out with me. I'm pretty much over it but for the sake of getting a lesson and feedback, I put it up here for your criticisms. Thanks.


    <WARNING: This is a bit long. The convo spans out for a month.>

    I sent her a message and it went like this:




    tuna_casserole : hey, I think you're kinda fine. We need to hang out. come eat ice cream with me while I punch dolphins. this is not a joke.


    no response. So the next day...


    tuna_casserole 2:26pm : That was a bit forward, I know. But is it wrong...to want to eat ice cream...and punch dolphins in the nose?

    I don't really know you, yet I am still checking to see the reach of your wit or humor by being absurd as possible in my advances towards you.

    If this amuses you than cool, but if not I can't feel bad cause I've done dumber sh1t.

    Her 2:29pm: It made me laugh, but definitely didn't make me want to hang out with you.. Hah
    tuna_casserole 2:34pm: Oh that's cool. There's still time for that.

    So tell me the most awesome thing you've done in the past week?

    Her 2:37pm : I can't think of anything... Which is horrible because everyone should do something incredibly awesome at least once a week.

    By the way, I think punching a dolphin sounds really mean and you should never do that.

    tuna_casserole 2:41pm: Dolphins are like the smartest creatures on earth aside from primates. They're gonna catch up. Do you really want to see what a few more thousand years of evolution will do to them? This is a survival thing.

    Do you want to see walking dolphins? Talking dolphins?

    Her 2:41pm: I would love to.
    tuna_casserole 2:41pm: I'm doing this for the human race.
    Her 2:41pm: I could care less about humans. Animals are way better in my eyes
    tuna_casserole 2:42pm: Oh no, you're one of those peta animal molesters, aren't you?
    you sick fark.
    Her 2:43pm: Without the molesting part
    tuna_casserole 2:43pm: yea I wouldn't admit that I molest animals on fb chat either.
    You know, human beings brought you microwave dinners.

    ...MICROWAVE DINNERS.

    I haven't seen an animal do a feat that impressive since, never.

    Her 2:46pm: ...I hate microwaves.
    tuna_casserole 2:46pm: Oh jeez. I'm sure you think they give you cancer right?
    Her 2:47pm: Nope

    But they destroy nutritional value in most foods

    tuna_casserole 2:47pm: f**k beneficial enzymes.

    I'd rather have my proteins scrambled beyond recognition.

    So tell me something interesting about yourself so i can feel better about talking to you.

    Her 2:49pm: I'm not sure if I feel that good talking to YOU! haha
    tuna_casserole 2:50pm: oh no, you actually love talking to me.

    you're prodominatly frustrated but simultaneously intrigued and you're probably thinking about me naked right now.

    it happens

    Her 2:52pm: I don't even know you or what you look like...
    tuna_casserole 2:53pm: But yea, tell me something interesting that kind of defines who you are or something you like to do.

    I'm kind of interested.

    Her 2:56pm: I'm an artist but I work way too much and have been too tired to find motivation.
    tuna_casserole 2:56pm: whats your medium?
    tuna_casserole 3:03pm: ...?

    Ok, I'm gonna jump in here and fill in the blanks myself. you paint pictures of fruit.

    I gotta go soon, but I would like to show you something I painted that I'm sort of proud of, only because you say you're an "artist" (of what, I don't actually know).

    I feel "artists" should inspire and motivate eachother.

    ttyl.

    Her 3:18pm: I paint with acrylics however I've done some pretty good ceramic pieces too
    tuna_casserole 4:13pm: I'm back. for a bit

    that's pretty cool *girls name*. I like people who create things. Do you have any pictures of your stuff uploaded online?

    (she took a little bit to respond, so I said this) nah, you probably don't know how to use a camera.

    Her 4:19pm: ?? I have an art album



    THE NEXT DAY.


    tuna_casserole 1:25pm: I'm totally kidding. My sense of humor confuses people.


    THE NEXT DAY.

    tuna_casserole 5:33pm: So Ive got an awesome idea- lets trade links to our art. I have that piece I was telling you about already uploaded.
    tuna_casserole 6:29pm: If I send you my stuff, you have to
    a.) promise not to laugh, and
    b.) send me yours so I dont feel naked and alone.
    Her 6:34pm: I told you I have an art album on fb
    tuna_casserole 6:37pm: Oh cool. my album is filled with silly pictures of me and my friends.
    Her 6:38pm: Pictures or drawings?
    tuna_casserole 6:39pm: No, pictures. you can check it out if you want, then you can finally put a face to this asshole.

    Heres a link to that painting i did.

    Her 6:41pm: I didn't get any links
    tuna_casserole 6:47pm: *link to some sh1t*
    Her 6:53pm: Sound cloud?
    tuna_casserole 6:59pm: Yea, I did some artwork for some tunes of a band i was in.
    Her 7:01pm: Aha
    tuna_casserole 7:04pm: You see it now?
    tuna_casserole 7:11pm: (I like the way you blend your colors, like on the X piece. More so, I the overall concepts of a couple pieces were interesting to me, particularly the Z one and sort of the Y one (of which the shades of purple thing was cool). I think your A one was pretty prime too.
    tuna_casserole 7:38pm: The wierdness of that X piece kind of reminds me of the stuff I used to do back in the day. I have a whole folder of it but Im kind of sketched out about putting it online cause its so wierd. Maybe I should show you sometime so you can tell me if they're too wierd or not.


    TWO DAYS LATER.

    tuna_casserole 4:36pm: So Im curious, did you grow up around here?
    tuna_casserole 6:53pm: Nvrmd. I probably shouldn't have given you all that feedback about the art. If I were you I probably wouldn't talk to some stranger on the internet either. Maybe I'll just see you around some time.
    Her 7:59pm: I really just don't like talking to people in general, especially those I don't know.. nothing personal

    tuna_casserole 8:21pm: Oh so you're kind of introverted then. I have a few friends like that, and sometimes have that side of me. I bet it takes you a while to warm up to someone, but sometimes if you meet someone you're into it kind of clicks.
    Her 8:45pm: word


    THE NEXT DAY.

    tuna_casserole 3:17pm: So I saw the most beautiful cherry blossom tree today.
    tuna_casserole 3:42pm: It had bunches of bright pink flowers that would shake from the gentle breeze as the tiny petals would flutter to the ground.
    Her 3:43pm: How cute. Haha
    tuna_casserole 3:48pm: Yea it was awesome.

    You seen any beautiful sights lately?

    tuna_casserole 3:57pm: Oh hey, do you party at all? My buddy's having a keggar tonight.
    Her 3:58pm: I work early and all day on weekends, so I don't party much. I do drink on my days off though Haha
    tuna_casserole 4:02pm: Oh cool. when are your days off? We should hang out and grab a drink.


    3 DAYS LATER.

    tuna_casserole 1:36pm: Ok, so if you could be any animal in the world, for a day, which one would you be and why?
    Her 4:01pm: Penguin because I love penguins haha
    tuna_casserole 11:00pm: Penguins are cool, but why would you be a penguin specifically? Like if you had a whole day in the arctic while it was sunny, what would you do as a penguin?


    2 DAYS LATER

    tuna_casserole 6:20pm: Anyway, this may sound crazy, but there are a couple st. Patty's day parties Im gonna go to and as wierd as this sounds I think I kind want you to come around so we can get past this "i met you on the internet" silly thing. You can bring your friends too. Its gonna be an awesome time for sure cause Im quarter Irish. Lol.

    5 DAYS LATER

    Her 7:25pm: Somehow I just read that. Haha
    tuna_casserole 7:28pm: Oh man, last night was farking awesome. Shame you werent around to bask.
    Her 7:28pm: I went to a party and had fun sober
    tuna_casserole 7:29pm: Thats still cool.
    tuna_casserole 7:40pm: We should hang out anyway sometime.

    Is that still wierd for you? lol
    tuna_casserole 8:04pm: Nvrmd. Forget about it.
    Her 8:05pm: Sorry I'm busy
    tuna_casserole 8:08pm: S'all good. We should hang out when you're free sometime.


    2 DAYS LATER

    tuna_casserole 2:01pm: You should give me your number.

    THE NEXT DAY.

    tuna_casserole 2:12pm: Well hey, do you wanna get some margaritas with me sometime?

    like...ever? lol


    Here is where I basically gave up, and then remembered how my friend talked about her once. I thought I'd bring that up as some last ditch effort to get this chick off facebook and into my bed.


    ONE WEEK LATER.

    tuna_casserole 1:20pm: So I was hanging out of town with X and Z the other night. I remember X mentioning you once a while ago. Did you used to live by x?
    Her 1:20pm: No, but I used to hang out with all those guys in high school
    tuna_casserole 1:22pm: Yeah, I hung out with all those guys in high school.

    My homies...awesome times.

    Her 1:22pm: They're cool dudes
    tuna_casserole 1:22pm: Hell yea.

    I'm suprised we haven't met before, unless we have and I don't remember.

    haha.
    Her 2:34pm: I don't remember but we probably have
    tuna_casserole 2:54pm: Word. We should just hang out sometime. We both probably know eachother already and we have the same friends.



    I think I lost some steam after I complimented her art and in trying to build some comfort/rapport maybe asked her too many questions. If I would have stopped being as rediculous in the beginning, maybe focused on some comfort and then gone for the number a little earlier it might have worked out. Maybe I was right to ping her at random, but should have layed off with the questions. Who knows.

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    dude no offense...but that was pretty bad. you asked her to hang out like 1000 times when you clearly didnt make her comfortable and have a connection. way way way too needy bro

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by bendenherover View Post
    dude no offense...but that was pretty bad. you asked her to hang out like 1000 times when you clearly didnt make her comfortable and have a connection. way way way too needy bro

    hey thanks for the reply man.

    I felt like I was experimenting with banter a while and missed a couple opprotunities to connect and when I realized this and asked to hang-out, her unwillingness to me seemed like something that could have worked if I was persistant. Clearly persistence dosent work if there's not enough comfort, as I have learned. I couldnt really gauge where she was at because she would sometimes re-engage me, so I do admit a mild amount of confusion. So you would take her silence as feeling uncomfortable?


    Do you think you could maybe point out where I could have done anything specififally diffrerent or would you say the whole encounter was a doomed process to begin with?

    I think this chick has quite a few mutual friends of mine, so I might have a certain perception of creepiness (god, i hope thats not the case. persistance has usually worked out for me) assoociated with my name. Damn, all for foolin around tryin to get this chick to hang out.

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    while I punch dolphins. this is not a joke.
    -who wants to punch dolphins? :0 seriously even if its joking, anyhow not my sense of humour (yes i know she laughed at it but even so)


    If this amuses you than cool, but if not I can't feel bad cause I've done dumber sh1t.
    while this part shows u don't really give a fqck, i'm not sure on the if it amuses part though, seems like you're trying to please her


    Her 2:29pm: It made me laugh, but definitely didn't make me want to hang out with you.. Hah
    i'm not sure how you'd get a meetup out of your opener but yeah good follow up response / qualifier

    By the way, I think punching a dolphin sounds really mean and you should never do that.
    confirmed


    in your banter part, you're pretty much crushing everything she says, she's entitled to her opinion and so are you but like "fqck beneficial enzymes" ? lol

    tuna_casserole 2:56pm: whats your medium?
    tuna_casserole 3:03pm: ...?

    ^needy double message, especially if she was hawking the convo and waiting a bit to reply so it wasnt insta


    ttyl.

    Lol FB chat is carried over private messaging, so there's always time to carry the convo later...seriously you dont have to end convos just cause ur not at the pc/mob

    it seems like an overall unfriendly or you think your too good vibe coming from you

    Her 4:19pm: ?? I have an art album
    perfect opportunity to see her artwork

    tuna_casserole 4:36pm: So Im curious, did you grow up around here?
    this is date talk sorta get to know you stuff not facey stuff, i know you haven't met her but yeah steer clear at first

    tuna_casserole 8:21pm: Oh so you're kind of introverted then. I have a few friends like that, and sometimes have that side of me. I bet it takes you a while to warm up to someone, but sometimes if you meet someone you're into it kind of clicks.
    Her 8:45pm: word

    nice

    tuna_casserole 4:02pm: Oh cool. when are your days off? We should hang out and grab a drink.
    as if she didn't reply to that, anyhow a chick you havent met isn't going to go to a party with you, that sends alot of alarm bells in her mind

    while i like your persistence, 5 days later (with messages inclusive) seems a bit desperate

    tuna_casserole 7:40pm: We should hang out anyway sometime.

    Is that still wierd for you? lol
    tuna_casserole 8:04pm: Nvrmd. Forget about it.
    Her 8:05pm: Sorry I'm busy
    tuna_casserole 8:08pm: S'all good. We should hang out when you're free sometime.

    shes politely blowing you off, if she went to a party she could've easily gone and met up with you, she has free time, shes not interested


    I thought I'd bring that up as some last ditch effort to get this chick off facebook and into my bed.
    she wouldn't have been going anywhere quick even if you met her no offense

    ago. Did you used to live by x?
    Her 1:20pm: No, but I used to hang out with all those guys in high school

    this would've built comfort in the beginning, not in the end stages where she's alreayd formed her impression of you, and then you can talk about these guys and why they were awesome and then get into an awesome convo and THEN she should be ready for a meetup, but given everything prior it won't work but i would still try just to see if it can happen, if you give her the chance, don't say we should hang, tell her whats happening ie 6:42 icecream at tacobell, be there

    consider reading a blueprint, daygame blueprint, mystery method, any of david d's stuff

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    Yea thanks man. I dont think there's any way this chick will hang out with me and I think most of the people who have read this thread will probably agree (feel free to jump in here on that point guys). She was blowing me off because I didnt focus on connecting and I conveyed an appearance of neediness...I dont think there's any way to reverse that. Telling her to meet me somewhere when she dont want to come is going to reinforce her aversion to coming out to hang out. Thanks again for your feedback tho.

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    you could give it a few months, reinitiate with better knowledge id give it a crack just for learning experience cause you really have nothing to lose at this stage

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    Dude, get number, text, call and close.

    Facebook is like Stage 2 in a 10 Stage Process. don't stay there for a long time lest you want to be pen-palled :P

    PS: If you want to punch dolphins, frikkin punch dolphins man. It's more about the how than the what.

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    Tbh the main problem I saw was you were far tooo random, I mean a bit of randomness is ok, but everything u said was a bit off the wall which destroyed ur chance of a connection, and it was too needy, read up on text game there are some awseome guides on this site

    Linking x

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    I agree with Linking,

    There is no flow to this conversation it just jumps awkwardly all over the place. The punching dolphins thing I really don't like (sorry).

    You need to make a statement and then stay on that topic for a while before moving off onto something else. The artwork section is a massive missed opportunity. She mentioned naked there are all kinds of opportunities that you can do with that and flirt.

    There isn't really any flirting here from what I've read, it just seem like a lot of randomness.

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    Default Re: FB Chat w/ Random Girl, experimented with banter - can't get Day 2.

    You remind me of my guy friends. That's a bad thing. I would talk to my guy friends the way you held your conversations, but not to a woman.
    And don't ever curse to a woman, moreso to a HB stranger woman.

    Your double posts of " ...?" were way needy, my rule of thumb is wait 24 hrs, but on fb chat I guess it could be different, I'd still wait hours.
    Alarm bells went off in my head its like PUA rule #1, "we should hang out sometime" is the most AFC thing you can say. And since you do not know her, your best bet would be something like, "Hey me and a bunch of my guy and girl friends (hopefully assuming you have decent amount of female friends) are going to xyz club Friday, you should come we will be there at 8:07."


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