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Thread: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    Agreed. The girl might be fucking bored with the guy, hence the "hahahah this, ohohohoh that". Girls are generally nice, so they won't tell you to fuck off.

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    Just depends how much effort you want to put in. I my head if a girl is giving me nothing but 'haha' all the time I label her as boring and move on (unless she's fucking hot of course).

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    Thanks for offering insights. Like lenric said she might be bored as hell with my conversations and sidewinder mentioned earlier about her not being engaged in my conversations. I also read somewhere on this forum about using text for two things only, either building comfort, or setting up a date. Thus I'll take your advice of not investing in her like crazy, making myself look needy in the process.

    Here's my plan:
    Wait one or two weeks and initiate a conversation by saying
    "Haha gosh.."
    Naturally girls won't be able to resist knowing what caused this type of reaction and she'll end up asking..
    "What?"
    "I scrolled up and found our messages real funny.."
    This will achieve the following: Assuring her I haven't been thinking about her and that our conversations haven't been of such importance to me which is why I haven't remembered them and why I'm being suprised by them. She will most likely try to reframe back to her pedestal by telling me:
    "They're not funny at all"
    To which I will respond:
    Eitherway, I'm going to stop testing you.
    Now this line above might turn things around slightly because I think it might repair alot of the damage caused by earlier conversation. It will make her feel she's been tested/played/tricked and to verify this she will scroll up to earlier messages and start looking for such cues. If I've been annoying she might think I was testing her patience, if I have been weird I might have been analyzing her type of reaction... if I did this I might have been testing that. Girls imaginations are prone to coming up with alot of scenarios like that, much more so than I would be able to; so I'll make sure to leave the thinking to her. She'll most likely try this first:
    "Testing what?"
    I will not put any weight on her question at all, instead opting for this type of approach:
    Leave the curiousness aside for a moment. What are you doing on saturday evening?
    Then depending on her answer, I'll tell her that I'd like to meet up with here. Short, casual and direct.

    The success rate for me being able to set up a date on that conversation will be slightly under 2%. I will be blown off... "No"... but to that I will reply with "Hmm" as if I'm puzzled.. and then stop texting for another week or two. Hopefully this will instill to her alot of doubts about me. Those doubts will help me when I re-initiate after those week/s with:
    "Hey! What's up"
    "Hi! blablabla"
    "We never got to meet last time. How's your friday this week?"

    The success rate for the second conversation is slightly higher but still not convincing. Well people gamble with alot of lower percentages right? also from the advice I've gotten I've decided I'm done trying to chat girls up on facebook, atleast those I haven't met already in person.

    Also the reason I put so much effort in making this post detailed is that you'll find it easier to give me advice on improving this approach, changing or maybe completely dismissing it so please tell me what you think

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    I don't rate this I'm afraid...

    Your first text will just go completely unanswered, she'll ignore it and you'll be left with nothing.

    You're still trying to map out your conversations too much. It looks and feels forced because it is. All you have to do is throw out an interesting comment or hook as bait for her to bite on...

    It can be anything! I've opened (re-engaged) with:

    "I accidentally walked into the women's locker room at the gym! possibly the most embarrassing moment of the year thus far "

    "I'm really hungover, come make me a bacon sandwich, I can pay you... 74p "


    All of these are true, you just need to turn something fun that happened in your life into a story. You can over-egg and exaggerate a little to make things more fun.

    All in all, just try to be more natural about it.

    Also don't wait a week, that's too long, she'll have forgotten who you are. A day or two is normally the optimum waiting period before re-engaging.

    A few Further Pointers:

    • Never end messages with "How's your Friday?" - it's boring, it's in the same league as "how are you?". Anything is better than these.

    • Get rid of "we never go to meet last time" this is a needy message, it reminds her she wasn't interested enough to go out before and it shows that it upset you.

    • Your strategy of waiting is flawed. Waiting only works when you've actually built attraction. If you have attraction they will think about you and wonder the classic "why hasn't he called". Without attraction you're instantaneously forgotten and then when you re-engage she'll think "why the hell is this guy texting me again".

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    It can be anything! I've opened with:
    until he actually experiences it he won't realise that you don't have to map out convos, only beginners do

    and now i know who it was, you told me you could send "my foot hurts" and she'd reply, i did it and saw the light :P

    thanks sw +1 to back this up

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    Mate, you're saying that your aim is to build comfort and set up a meeting. Then, you say you'll text her again within 1/2 weeks. 1/2 weeks without talking will make her attraction (if there is any, which is the case imo) go buy a hotdog and surf. So you're going to build comfort with someone who has no connection with you, no feelings towards you. You feel me bro?

    Oh btw sidewinder told you everything you need to know.

    Your text should be completely non-sense by the way. "oh my fucking dooooooooog!!!!! I need female opinions on something very important, matter of life or death!!!!!" tutututututututututu she answers, you reply "I want to do a change sex operation. What is the best make-up brand?"

    If you want, you can reduce the amount of "energy" you put, for example, not so much "oooooo" in the word dog.

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    I meant "How is friday this week?" as in if she's not doing anything and setting up a meet, and not as a question as to how her friday has been. But nonetheless that doesn't change the core flaw of why that plan won't work as you've pointed out.

    I guess I still can't convince myself that throwing up something random and witty like the examples above won't make me look like a total tryhard or that she'll sense I'm indirectly trying to pick her up.

    I don't want any bigger mistakes right now so I'll have to take some time and think about this. Haha this pua-thingie is too complicated for me I guess, I regret that I didn't spend time practicing or reading before attempting to game that one must-have-girl . But we'll see where it leads because it would be weird leaving our convos where it's at right now incase we'd ever accidently meet in the future, so I'm making a move within next week

    EDIT1: I think I'll stick with the basic outline of my first plan, although as you said not mapping out too much, making it feel natural and removing any neediness like "We never got to meet last time.". I'll post the convo in this thread. In the end... if it's a total flop atleast it'll serve other newbies with some don't-do and more experienced users with a really good laugh

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    Default Re: [FB CHAT] IOI or IOD, worth continuing?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkvatten View Post
    I regret that I didn't spend time practicing or reading before attempting to game that one must-have-girl )
    The longer you do this you'll realise that there isn't a "one-must-have girl". There are loads of amazing girls, so don't spend soo much time worrying about one.

    The openers above aren't try-hard, they're just fun little conversation pieces. Things you might trot out to your mates in a bar over a pint but with a little more excitement and energy injected...


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