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    Default Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    So opening and getting a number has never been a problem with me, I have decent looks and can usually have easy flowing conversation. The problem is the bit in the middle between the number and getting laid.

    For some reason, at first I can keep up the flirt and it goes well, but depending on the girl it dies out quite quickly and I cant revive it. Most of the middle stuff is via text which is why I posted this in this section. I've read the guides above and done some research, but I still cant fully figure out why I cant keep the conversation going.

    Tips? Timing? Tricks?

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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle?

    You can only keep a game going over text for so long, because whilst you are inside texting her, she could be outside getting gamed by some other guy. After you Number Close try to set up a date or meet up, then from there you can Kino escalate to make sure you dont get put in the friend zone. Keep the flirting high and try to get a lot of eye contact.
    When texting her though, keep it funny and interesting, and dont text too much. You dont want to let her know that she has your undivided attention so dont reply to texts immediately, just keep it chilled.

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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    Texting game is not very affective and hardly an affective media in general. Use it to occasionally make her remember something of you in a good way or for logistics only.

    Set up more face time! She can't f-you through text, so how valuable is spending time texting her? I know that trying to have sex via text only means that you will end up having to pull start the love machine to get any release. So I think you need to get more face time with these ladies.
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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    Thank you for the advice, I try to not keep the game going long over text however sometimes with school it's unavoidable. Could any of you perhaps reference me some examples of texting, not the initial "spike interest ones" but the filler and transitions you use in between?

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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    This is quite a neat guide and has a few things that will probably help you out

    http://www.puaforums.com/how-text-gi...ing-guide.html

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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    The search tab can help a lot too once you get familiar with it it is your friend.
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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleath5 View Post
    So opening and getting a number has never been a problem with me, I have decent looks and can usually have easy flowing conversation. The problem is the bit in the middle between the number and getting laid.

    For some reason, at first I can keep up the flirt and it goes well, but depending on the girl it dies out quite quickly and I cant revive it. Most of the middle stuff is via text which is why I posted this in this section. I've read the guides above and done some research, but I still cant fully figure out why I cant keep the conversation going.

    Tips? Timing? Tricks?
    Well you ask a very difficult question to answer because I have this same problem. I have no problem opening and getting a number but the struggle for me is to get the lay.

    Since we are both in the same boat it's hard to say but I might as well take a crack at it since I will have to deal with it next time I get an HB's number LOL. Basically you should probably text them right away I think I have gotten the most results this way than waiting the next day unless they ask. I might wait till next day sometimes though. I have been getting responses from my first text that night and should be pushing it harder that night when I got them responding to keep pinging their emotions.

    I think my problem is I text them that night I met them get all happy and walk away and then try to get their validation again that next day which is a AFC move. My advice is to just push it hard really hard that night but in a cool way. Do it till you know you got this little HB wrapped around your little finger and you are setting up a Day 2 or meet up that night you met them so plan ahead the next week if you need to.

    My problem is I hesitate and wait too long to ask a girl out. I am going to start asking girls to hang out the night I meet them screw it as long as I don't have any time constraints LOL then I will set up a Day 2.

    But as far as actual texting goes I have noticed timing is very important in getting anyway. My suggestions are again texting them same day, next day, etc. Then aside from that not seeking their validation but being above it and just looking to score not to have some little fun texting buddy. For instance whenever I am just seeking validation girls can smell it and get rid of me pretty quickly. When I am more sexual with women sometimes they like that confidence. My advice is to up the sexual teasing and this is something I need to do also. Just keep it lighthearted though or you'll freak them out. Always change it up and never stick to a specific pattern when interacting with women.

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    Default Re: Messy In the Middle? (between the number and the close)

    It is a common sticking point that we all get burned on, the unfortunate thing is the right answer will depend on the girl. After first date that's when you find the true nature of the beast. Opening, building comfort/ rapport, escalating is all rather similar between most ladies. However after that then you really see how different they are what all seems to be the same few paths in the beginning becomes a labyrinth of exponential different ways after that point, each of them being way different.

    The beginning is very similar you have to get her defenses down. After they are down that's where her differences and complexities will give you a lot of ways to hang yourself. That is why I think it is a major sticking point.
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