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    Default going great then no reply

    This keeps happening to me with many dating sites.Conversation is going great and after a few days the convo goes stale then eventually its comes to an end and I never get a chance to meet them.I notice that all Im doing is building comfort and rapport so should I break rapport online/texting? and is there a attraction & seduction phase in texting? Im really lost , thanks for hearing me out
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    Default Re: going great then no reply

    Quote Originally Posted by viruscast View Post
    This keeps happening to me with many dating sites.Conversation is going great and after a few days the convo goes stale then eventually its comes to an end and I never get a chance to meet them.I notice that all Im doing is building comfort and rapport so should I break rapport online/texting? and is there a attraction & seduction phase in texting? Im really lost , thanks for hearing me out

    I just got done watching RSD Julien Manifesto on youtube and it was incredible. I suggest watching that.

    Online Dating
    Well I am taking a break from online dating right now I just got really burnt out because some HB shut me down hard so I am rethinking it and will get on again in a few months when I get some down time and I am in the mood. Personally I am never able to take off with the online dating sites since I never really get any responses. I have only tried hitting up a few HB's on there but still need to work on improving my online social skills.

    I think online dating is really rough because you have to really have something going on every weekend to really look cool to the girl. Also it's harder to break rapport with them because their is still a stigma with online dating. This one girl lead me on for months and was still stringing me along while she had a BF.

    I think you're only plan of attack needs to be displaying social proof (ie always stuff going on in the weekend, super cool on weekdays, awesome lifestyle). You are basically going to need to come from a place of high value without telling them what you do for work or too much about your interests. I have heard stories the guys with great bodies get all the girls on there, or the guys that only post "I am a Med Student" get girls massively hitting them up and replying all the time. That's why I am kind of laying off because most girls on there are looking for a guy with a killer body or a killer career so it's hard to break through that dynamic with mere social proof. It can be done it's just really hard to hook up with a girl online using social proof alone without being super alpha, super congruent or something.

    Texting
    But yeah as a side note I would say giving HB's less time to come around since this is my new ideology. But as far as meeting up with the girl I would say setting the tone early is the best agenda to have mate. I just met a girl at the Bar last night set the tone way early because I was experimenting. Basically I called her last night left a vm about hanging out then texted her this morning and got a response right away. Now I haven't responded yet, feel less needy, feel like I am reading girls better and all around a huge confidence boost.

    What has helped me is just setting the tone early with the concept of hanging out. Like I told this girl even though I didn't have money I wanted to hang out with her today and now she is playing hard to get which is cool because she is still very into me over text but I know that can change in a hearbeat LOL since she could always flip her emotions on me in the blink of an eye. Just keep the interactions smooth mate. They go stale because you need to up the vibe by calling them baby, honey, sweet little nick names like that and stuff. But don't do that all the time keep her chasing that validation from you. Like for instance if she is responding well call her sweet nicknames. If she stops getting back to you then stop sucking up to her. Just like that man and set the tone early that you want to hang out soon.

    Not a month from now, not till next season none of that jazz. I allowed girls to lead me on for months because I never got around to asking them out. Now I immediately asked this girl last night what she was doing tomorrow, what she was doing today and got her to invest. So keep it simple like that and tell them about Day 2 plans right away don't go AFC or get friend zoned because you never ask them out, never joke around about sexual undertones, or never call them nicknames. Are you doing that stuff? If not try experimenting.


    Sequences & Sticking Points
    You have go to build your social momentum mate. Basically remember these key elements. You have to escalate, joke around, and go for the meet up as the conclusion. Don't be above the process your first goal is always going to be to get the #. But I have noticed often times I just become a texting buddy because I am not following the right process by asking them out right away showing them I am confident but letting them lead me on for months. Don't wait for them to come around and ask you out. Just ask them out knowing hey some of them will play hard to get which is great because it will get them to invest even if they are not ready to hang out yet at least you can start stringing them along. Sounds like you might have some sticking points you should try to work on improving your inner game.

    I changed up my style a bit and last night had no sh!t tests and massive IOI's on a HB9 N-close & K-close but the weekend before an HB10 sh!t tested me hard on every approach I did on her and was freaking out. I could never win her over. I realized I had some sticking points so my thoughts were just coming out aligned last night and the girl could sense it. Things don't happen very quickly for me over text and I usually have to wait days, weeks, or months to hear back from the girl finally. They will play hard to get but you should also play hard to get when they are investing to prevent them from getting bored and leaving you.


    Like follow the process mate. The minute you get a girl's number use it that day. I tried this last night and it worked great. I am going to lessen the time gaps between creating time bridges, getting Day 2's, etc. I haven't gotten a Day 2 yet since I have got in the game last year so don't feel lost I feel lost too. I just feel more in control now. I realize though I wasn't aiming for a Day 2. At first I was just texting random stuff shooting for replies. Now I am texting going for meet ups right away and going to try that for a while. Just don't do things out of sequence like never ask a girl out, text her for months just random stuff. Be clear in your intentions and tell a girl you want to hang out with her this weekend when you meet her. The longer you put things on hold the faster some other guy will swoop in and or you will get friend zoned. Just remember to maintain your momentum and slow things down a bit at times, speed things up at other times, and always start out aggressive and crazy as heck. Just keep them guessing mate to get them chasing you. That's my best advice is to get them chasing you and then you can be thinking when you want to reply, when you want to hang out, what you want from the interaction, etc.


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