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    Default My current texting strategy and the tactics I am using

    So guys I really didn't want to post in this section till I started getting results. So I got some good results from some of my field tested data.

    The Strategy
    I know we say on here to stop texting after 2-3 no replies but let me explain a method I have discovered why you shouldn't give up that easily. For instance I posted my latest Pick Up field report for the Bar and hit a sweet spot with this new HB9 I met on Friday.

    Basically she didn't agree to my Day 2 plans at first for Coffee and a Movie but she agreed to Day 2 plans of visiting her work and maybe something after. This is a huge step forward in my texting game since as you guys know I have been struggling in my texting game. Tried all styles is cocky, funny, serious, sexual, rude, nice guy, boring, etc and nothing worked nearly as well as what is working now.

    What did I do differently? I set a Time Bridge when I met her, set a Time Bridge again when I left her a vm that night, then kept mentioning hanging, Day 2 plans. She was playing hard to get saying she had all these plans but I got her to agree to see me again by stopping by her work and maybe something after. This is more than I could have asked for. I see guys making out with hot chicks on their breaks all the time and why couldn't I be that guy?

    So Time Bridge was the first thing credit to Mystery. I haven't ever used this tactic but my game was getting so good at opening, closing, escalating I wanted to try for a Phase Shift into something new. This really helped with that. Basically I just kept plugging the idea of hanging out the night I met her, through vm's, and texts.

    The Tactics
    Time Bridging really ramped up the attraction but also persistent patience won the day for me. I finally got my first HB9 to invest. She has agreed to see me, finally started responding, got her to initiate a text to me, etc.

    So the second thing is just about plugging away. What did I do differently? I called yes sounds old fashioned but this rocket launched my own confidence around her and left less frustration instead of a bunch of unanswered texts. So I called her that night at about 2 am left a vm intro, told her to save my number, gave my name, and reaffirmed my intentions by setting Day 2 plans. The next morning I sent my first text and she responded very enthusiastically within 15 min.

    What did I do? I spaced it out and made my response times 1 hour -1 hour and a half. She responded again so again another intentional delayed text. Her enthusiasm wore off then she started responding late and then just stopped. So I sent her like 3 or 4 texts spaced out in a row that night after hearing 3 responses from her. No response after the 3 or 4 I sent her so I called her at 12:00 am just to be a bit of an A-hole. Left a long flipping vm when I had been drinking rambling about how I wanted to sleep with her, wish I had hooked up with her, told her she was high caliber, said I wanted to get to know her on a deeper level, I was just shy, etc.

    This was a high risk move and I knew it but I was doing it to qualify her. So after still not hearing from her switched back to the Nice Guy Routine and said good morning honey happy I met you I hope we can hang out again with the Time Bridging. No response. Called her phone after a few hours or so and left another vm very short and sweet like 1 min long to play hard to get. I said Hi HB9 this is PUA just calling to see if we can hang out soon, I like you, I want you, etc. Very quick that's like all I said. Still no response.

    Sent her another text after a little bit stating I wanted to come visit her work still no response. Called her my 2nd time that day and left another vm after a few hours stating she made out with and needs to see me, why not take the first step and agree to see me at her work?

    I think that Time Bridge and Day 2 stuff was the hook because after 2 unanswered texts that day, 2 unreturned calls, and 3 or 4 um answered texts that previous day she finally hits me up. We text the rest of the night much more quickly just back and forth a lot. She agreed to the Day 2 and all that. I only met her 2 days ago but it's been very rocky now things are softening up a bit.

    To review I had 6 unanswered texts and 3 unreturned calls over like 24 hours before getting her to finally come around. So it's like I was on a Freeze Out for 24 hours talking to a brick wall. Now that I broke through I don't think you guys should give up so easily by only sending one text that day and one the next day before giving up. I seen an HB9 have like 9 unanswered texts from an Ex-Bf thought he was needy and she left me for him cuz my texting to her sucked and I wasn't texting her enough and she said she forgot about me. So text more guys just don't go AFC and call 6 times a day or send 9 texts a day unanswered. Persistence pays off but be patient so space out you response times first then do a bunch of quick back and forth when you start breaking through. Give an HB a couple of weeks to come around after 1 month of nothing from her definitely give up and move on.

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    Default Re: My current texting strategy and the tactics I am using

    Have some pride dude. At the end of the day, it's not always about getting the chick. There's no way in hell I'm calling anyone I just met 3 or 4 times without them picking up or texting them 6 times without getting a response. You are severely lowering your own value when doing that. That is some of the neediest sh1t I've ever come across. There's a reason the top dogs in the gaming world give some general guidelines to follow. A lot of those tips are not only about picking up girls, but as an adverse affect they start to build strong inner game. At the end of the day you could get 100 girls this way, and I would congratulate you. But you still picked up all 100 of those girls being needy as sh1t, and as a man I'm not down with that. You're biggest issue that I've seen time and time again is that you're so obsessed with getting results and getting results now, that you sacrifice crucial aspects of who you are to try and get them. Don't give in my friend no matter how hard the struggle may be. You could have thousands of failed approaches, still keep approaching. Eventually you WILL get good, and things WILL turn in your favor. Stop placing girls on a pedestal and let them chase you after a certain time. You've tried all these different kinds of styles and don't seem to be getting anywhere, but have you tried just being yourself? Catering your game to bring out the best parts of who you are. That should be the only style you ever need.

    As my last point, really take the time to analyze your game. I've gotten blown off many times before, but not in the ways you seem to be getting blown off. I suggest video recording yourself and or hooking a mic up to yourself, to pick up on the little things you're doing wrong. I found 2 things to be constant truths when approaching and getting rejected in a horrific manner (excluding if they had a boyfriend and are married and excuses like that). If the girl get's pissed off A) she's just in a bad mood. or B) I creeped her out. Point B has happened to me maybe only once simply because I have refined my game to the point where I don't come off as creepy. At the very least I normally make the girl's day. Look at it from her point of view. If they're getting creeped out, there must be a reason why.

    In closing, stay true to yourself. Don't give that up for anyone. Don't lower yourself for anyone. Simply because you're the sh1t and you shouldn't have to. Good luck!

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    Default Re: My current texting strategy and the tactics I am using

    Persistence is fine but what you're doing is just plain needy!

    Don't keep banging your head on a brick wall with unresponsive girls, it makes your value sink like a stone!

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    Default Re: My current texting strategy and the tactics I am using

    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting View Post
    Have some pride dude. At the end of the day, it's not always about getting the chick. There's no way in hell I'm calling anyone I just met 3 or 4 times without them picking up or texting them 6 times without getting a response. You are severely lowering your own value when doing that. That is some of the neediest sh1t I've ever come across. There's a reason the top dogs in the gaming world give some general guidelines to follow. A lot of those tips are not only about picking up girls, but as an adverse affect they start to build strong inner game. At the end of the day you could get 100 girls this way, and I would congratulate you. But you still picked up all 100 of those girls being needy as sh1t, and as a man I'm not down with that. You're biggest issue that I've seen time and time again is that you're so obsessed with getting results and getting results now, that you sacrifice crucial aspects of who you are to try and get them. Don't give in my friend no matter how hard the struggle may be. You could have thousands of failed approaches, still keep approaching. Eventually you WILL get good, and things WILL turn in your favor. Stop placing girls on a pedestal and let them chase you after a certain time. You've tried all these different kinds of styles and don't seem to be getting anywhere, but have you tried just being yourself? Catering your game to bring out the best parts of who you are. That should be the only style you ever need.

    As my last point, really take the time to analyze your game. I've gotten blown off many times before, but not in the ways you seem to be getting blown off. I suggest video recording yourself and or hooking a mic up to yourself, to pick up on the little things you're doing wrong. I found 2 things to be constant truths when approaching and getting rejected in a horrific manner (excluding if they had a boyfriend and are married and excuses like that). If the girl get's pissed off A) she's just in a bad mood. or B) I creeped her out. Point B has happened to me maybe only once simply because I have refined my game to the point where I don't come off as creepy. At the very least I normally make the girl's day. Look at it from her point of view. If they're getting creeped out, there must be a reason why.

    In closing, stay true to yourself. Don't give that up for anyone. Don't lower yourself for anyone. Simply because you're the sh1t and you shouldn't have to. Good luck!

    I almost misinterpreted this LOL. Well okay I think you are just trying to help me so since that's the case here's what I learned. To maybe act a little more aloft next time ie use freeze outs, Push-Pull, hot & cold, etc.

    You make some valid points but what did you say about "It's not always about getting the chick."? A little shocked by that. I thought it was always about getting the chick. What are you saying lilsting? You say it's okay to make 1000 approaches and fail everytime because one day I'll get good. Well not sure how to take that either maybe you can explain better. Wouldn't that be pathetic if I didn't make something happen by the 1,000 approach? I have only done 50 approaches so far and learned a lot. Did about 3 attempted F-closes which went nowhere but it's all good.

    The only thing I can think is that you are saying it's always okay to fail as long as I am being myself it doesn't matter about the girl and putting them on a pedestal is stupid. Well very true since if I do that then I am contracting oneitis and not focusing on other girls or getting a rotation going. Good advice since you can't put all your eggs in one basket. But still I have been lead on for months by girls when I was doing freeze outs, negs, hot & cold and it always went nowhere so what's your advice for dealing with that? But yes I'll remember this for next time and try to change it up.

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    Default Re: My current texting strategy and the tactics I am using

    Quote Originally Posted by mackdaddyjon View Post
    I almost misinterpreted this LOL. Well okay I think you are just trying to help me so since that's the case here's what I learned. To maybe act a little more aloft next time ie use freeze outs, Push-Pull, hot & cold, etc.

    You make some valid points but what did you say about "It's not always about getting the chick."? A little shocked by that. I thought it was always about getting the chick. What are you saying lilsting? You say it's okay to make 1000 approaches and fail everytime because one day I'll get good. Well not sure how to take that either maybe you can explain better. Wouldn't that be pathetic if I didn't make something happen by the 1,000 approach? I have only done 50 approaches so far and learned a lot. Did about 3 attempted F-closes which went nowhere but it's all good.

    The only thing I can think is that you are saying it's always okay to fail as long as I am being myself it doesn't matter about the girl and putting them on a pedestal is stupid. Well very true since if I do that then I am contracting oneitis and not focusing on other girls or getting a rotation going. Good advice since you can't put all your eggs in one basket. But still I have been lead on for months by girls when I was doing freeze outs, negs, hot & cold and it always went nowhere so what's your advice for dealing with that? But yes I'll remember this for next time and try to change it up.
    I am only trying to help. It's not always about getting the chick, not when you're learning anyway. I'm saying it's perfectly ok to make a shit ton of approaches and not get anywhere. This is not a race. If it took me 1,000 approaches to get anywhere and I was trying, it would be discouraging, but at the end of the day it's still a learning experience. Ignorance starts to seep in when people are reluctant in finding and fixing their issues. Everyone is different. I was lucky to have learned naturally a lot of social skills that a large majority of the population lacks. I can't judge someone trying to better themselves, no matter how long it takes.

    My advice is stop looking for the end result. Getting lead on is a choice. She may be stringing you a long, but it's up to you to decide if you want to play in her world, or to bring her into your domain. You can't get lead on when doing a Freeze Out. That makes no sense. A freeze out should be done only when you've exhausted the amount of interest you're willing to expend in a certain period of time. Another problem you have is that you've only made 50 approaches. I've seen you around this forum ever since I joined up a couple of months back and you've still only made 50. Not acceptable. I was out today buying some grub for my house and I was gone for about an hour. I made 4 approaches, and that wasn't even my intent.

    Here's a little about you that I've picked up: You're a class act over thinker. You analyze every situation you encounter in as many angles as you can hopelessly beating yourself up for a solution. This in turns reinforces the approaches you have made and causes you to want to see EVERY interaction all the way through. There's nothing wrong with that, except that you don't get over it. You dwell on the past and keep trying to figure out what went wrong, and can't except the fact that maybe it just didn't work. Leave the past where it is and start practicing. Work your problems out naturally and stop thinking so much. This is literally the only thing you need to do to get good. Practice. Personally if I were you, I would stop talking to every girl I was texting/calling right now (unless it was really going somewhere), and go out and get a whole new set of numbers to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilsting View Post
    I am only trying to help. It's not always about getting the chick, not when you're learning anyway. I'm saying it's perfectly ok to make a sh1t ton of approaches and not get anywhere. This is not a race. If it took me 1,000 approaches to get anywhere and I was trying, it would be discouraging, but at the end of the day it's still a learning experience. Ignorance starts to seep in when people are reluctant in finding and fixing their issues. Everyone is different. I was lucky to have learned naturally a lot of social skills that a large majority of the population lacks. I can't judge someone trying to better themselves, no matter how long it takes.

    My advice is stop looking for the end result. Getting lead on is a choice. She may be stringing you a long, but it's up to you to decide if you want to play in her world, or to bring her into your domain. You can't get lead on when doing a Freeze Out. That makes no sense. A freeze out should be done only when you've exhausted the amount of interest you're willing to expend in a certain period of time. Another problem you have is that you've only made 50 approaches. I've seen you around this forum ever since I joined up a couple of months back and you've still only made 50. Not acceptable. I was out today buying some grub for my house and I was gone for about an hour. I made 4 approaches, and that wasn't even my intent.

    Here's a little about you that I've picked up: You're a class act over thinker. You analyze every situation you encounter in as many angles as you can hopelessly beating yourself up for a solution. This in turns reinforces the approaches you have made and causes you to want to see EVERY interaction all the way through. There's nothing wrong with that, except that you don't get over it. You dwell on the past and keep trying to figure out what went wrong, and can't except the fact that maybe it just didn't work. Leave the past where it is and start practicing. Work your problems out naturally and stop thinking so much. This is literally the only thing you need to do to get good. Practice. Personally if I were you, I would stop talking to every girl I was texting/calling right now (unless it was really going somewhere), and go out and get a whole new set of numbers to play with.

    Sadly that is not very helpful at all and sounds very controlling and you just spent the last paragraph insulting me and cutting me down. What was that all about? You came on here to belittle my 50 approaches and you have yet to reveal your approach number. What is with that I wonder? Didn't you just say it didn't matter if you did 1,000? So why is 50 so insignificant to you? I made only 12 approaches in 2012 and now 38 in 2013 and Summer isn't even here yet for me to do full force day game. That's massive improvement for me and I don't know what you find so wrong here. Haven't you heard me say it's not about the numbers? That's shallow man it's quality over quantity and that's what I have learned. I am looking for higher quality approaches now and cultivating things with women longer. And by the way your analysis of me is completely off.

    You just said you can't judge someone for trying to better themselves implying I was not improving myself because you just judged me and fully laid into my pick up mentality which seems pointless because I am still learning. You pretty much contradicted yourself for saying you don't judge, then judging, then implying I am not improving myself. It doesn't help me to have my stuff questioned on here. At least offer me something constructive.

    You say I have more value than I know then you say I have no value because of what I am doing and what I am learning. Didn't I say I was learning and getting better at gaming girls? It sounds like you don't believe me. Your posts in this thread are confusing and not making much sense just a lot of debate. I'm confused I have value or I don't? I don't get what you are saying. You say you have social skills the rest of the population lacks which sounds pretty arrogant since you need to make more sense or just debate less.

    Besides I am still learning and only been doing this for a year. I had no confidence last year and that's why I am approaching more this year. I have my own goals of where I want to be but that doesn't mean I am getting all bent out of shape because of some girl. Man the Summer is not even here yet why don't you give me till the end of Summer before having such a firm perception of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackdaddyjon View Post
    Sadly that is not very helpful at all and sounds very controlling and you just spent the last paragraph insulting me and cutting me down. What was that all about? You came on here to belittle my 50 approaches and you have yet to reveal your approach number. What is with that I wonder?

    I myself don't know my approach number. I've been making approaches before I ever got into pickup. All throughout college I made approaches because I've always been a fun sociable person. I came to this website to spruce up my text game, and stumbled upon a wonderful community. Ever since I've joined though (don't remember the exact month but I think February), I've made at least 350-400 approaches. That's on top of working 50-60 hours a week and school.

    Didn't you just say it didn't matter if you did 1,000? So why is 50 so insignificant to you? I made only 12 approaches in 2012 and now 38 in 2013 and Summer isn't even here yet for me to do full force day game. That's massive improvement for me and I don't know what you find so wrong here. Haven't you heard me say it's not about the numbers? That's shallow man it's quality over quantity and that's what I have learned. I am looking for higher quality approaches now and cultivating things with women longer.

    You asked me for advice, and I'm telling you that's where your problem lies. Is indeed true about quality over quantity, but that's only until you've learned all the basics (which you clearly haven't). This is applicable to anything you do. When you're first playing the piano, it's not about which song you're, but about playing as many different songs as possible and familiarizing yourself with the keys. When learning to play basketball, it's not about standing there and taking 10 or 20 "good shots." It's about shooting as much as possible trying to auto correct your mistakes. Things like these are of course made easier if you have a coach and such to teach you proper form and such. I'm telling you right now, your 50 approaches is not enough. I congratulate you on improving yourself. Find pride in the fact that you're doing something that 99% of guys can't and don't do. We are aspiring to become good at this though, so be a harsher critique on yourself. 38 approaches since January. That's 1-2 approaches a week. Going at the pace it will take a very long time to get good. That's why I'm telling you that you must do more.
    And by the way your analysis of me is completely off.

    You just said you can't judge someone for trying to better themselves implying I was not improving myself because you just judged me and fully laid into my pick up mentality which seems pointless because I am still learning. You pretty much contradicted yourself for saying you don't judge, then judging, then implying I am not improving myself. It doesn't help me to have my stuff questioned on here. At least offer me something constructive.

    I didn't imply sh1t. I meant it literally. I never hinted at you not improving yourself, stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't judge you. I gave you my perception of who "mackdaddyjon" is based on the few posts I've read about you. It could have been right or wrong, but that is how I perceive you. Judging you would be saying something like mackdaddyjon sucks at pickup and refuses to better himself. I don't farking no you. These are assumptions that I cannot make because of that. You were not judged so relax.

    You say I have more value than I know then you say I have no value because of what I am doing and what I am learning. Didn't I say I was learning and getting better at gaming girls? It sounds like you don't believe me. Your posts in this thread are confusing and not making much sense just a lot of debate. I'm confused I have value or I don't? I don't get what you are saying. You say you have social skills the rest of the population lacks which sounds pretty arrogant since you need to make more sense or just debate less.

    Again, stop putting words in my farking mouth. I didn't say you have no value. You have a sh1t ton of value. I clearly believe that you're trying to better yourself. Why else would I be trying to offer my constructive criticism, and why would you even be on this forum if you weren't trying to better yourself. My posts are not confusing. The sh1t I said makes perfect sense. You're just over analyzing. I am arrogant and I meant it arrogantly. No apologies there. I'm a farking boss, get over it. I'm not debating anything. I'm not asking you to do sh1t. I'm telling you this is what you need to do if you want to get better, it's a simple as that.

    Besides I am still learning and only been doing this for a year. I had no confidence last year and that's why I am approaching more this year. I have my own goals of where I want to be but that doesn't mean I am getting all bent out of shape because of some girl. Man the Summer is not even here yet why don't you give me till the end of Summer before having such a firm perception of me.

    My perception of you will change only when you post things to change my perception. If after the summer you've changed, sweet, more power to you. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I say or think. You're living your life. Do what makes you happy. Just don't waste your own time. Don't half ass this. If you're going to try to get good at this, put everything you got into it. (that's what she said :P)
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