What's up guys?! This is my first post and introduction to the puaforums community and I apologize ahead of time that it's a long one. I've been lurking on these forums for a couple of weeks now and after talking today to this girl I met in college last fall, I realized that I'm still very rookie, and in need of some professional advice. I've learned a lot the past month or so revisiting some of David DeAngelo's material as well as Mystery's (both on youtube) and a handful of other PUA Forums. Plus, blogs authored by self-proclaimed PUAs.
I really enjoyed my conversation with, we'll just call her Jane, but it left much to be desired. I used to be a natural when I was in my teenage years (I'm 23 now) but after a few life events, I've fallen off the natural path and am struggling to just have rewarding conversations with others, not just girls.
I wanted to post this because I feel like I'm making real f***ing progress and I'm pumped that I've gotten this far without anything but studying, real-world interaction, and a huge attempt to simply REMEMBER what came naturally to me when I was younger that made me so successful socially.
But I'm humble and realistic enough to know that 1, I can't do this alone. 2, The guys on this forum are a wealth of wisdom and insight that I'd be a fool to pass up on the chance that any of it starts rubbing off on me. And 3, that in this interaction below, there were a lot of missed opportunities to say something really great, and a lot of chances to escalate or make things more intimate/personal.
Again, I used to be a natural and know that right now I'm really rusty but that's why I'm here, with the hopes that some of you can grace me with some constructive criticism and helpful/hopeful advice. I love women but it's just been hard for a while to sit comfortably in a conversation and really develop something deeply personal with anyone in a while, and frankly I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. So here goes! Again sorry for the long-ass post but hopefully it's full of information that can be used to gauge my current level of ability.
So here's where I'm at with it and what I'm curious about if you guys could shed some light on these things:
- She says "ruddeeee" alot when I'm joking with her. Should I take that as the proverbial "playful punch on the arm" after teasing her or is that a negative sign or something else altogether? What can I do in reaction to that response she gave me in the future to either spice it up or whatever you think?
- I get the impression I should've been doing more DHVs, what do you think and what could I have said at specific points in the conversation that would've been funny lines, or anything that would've spiced up the conversation and created a little more attraction and value in my favor?
- Is there a resource I can go to that lists out and describes the A1-C whatever process that Mystery developed (I think)? It would help a lot for me to be able to see the process written down from A-Z.
- What should my end goal be besides having a lot of fun with her and just developing a connection? Should I aim to get her to ask me to hang out? Ask her for/Get her to ask me for our phone numbers? Again I guess I'm looking for a process or steps you take without becoming a "canned-line" robot of a man.
Thanks and I look forward to hopefully a long and fruitful experience on the puaforums! - Hutch
Me: hey jane how's your tonsils?
I'm doing a lot better!
Me: that's good! i bet you got to eat tons of ice cream
Her: lmao yeah moreso now than before
it like burned my throat at first
Me: they always say that helps but i didn't know if that's a myth
Her: it was a horrible idea at first
cause it's dairy
Me: haha the ice cream burned?
Her: yeah most foods burned up until like 2 days ago
so i didnt really eat
because it was terrible haha
Me: oh so jalapenos didnt soothe then
Her: i meaaaannnn those could have done the trick who knows
Me: like the opposite mightve helped
Her: yeah definitely not something i ever want to go through again but i'm glad i did it
Me: i saw that in my newsfeed like a week ago or something so youre still a little tuckered out like a little guy huh?
tuckered out little guy*
Her: haha dont be mean!
yeah i'm still on bed rest until tuesday
which is sooooo boring
Me: haha i know the feeling
i got poison ivy about a month ago and couldnt work for a week
it was reaaaaaaaally bad
Her: oh god
Me: my eyes swelled shut, my whole face and throat were swollen and red
Her: that's so bad!
Me: nothing oozing or whatever but i looked like sloth from the goonies
Her: that's hot
Me: aka a contorted monster...
my superman shirt was in the wash though so i couldnt pose for you
oh and suspenders
cant forget those
Her: haha that doesnt excuse you
Me: i was sending my friends and my boss pictures every day to show them how bad it was, but i just got an iphone and lost the pictures
Me: lol what if it doesn't? what are you gonna do about it?
Her: yay you've joined the iphone club
Me: come at me, bro
Her: the 4 or 5?
Me: the 4S
Her: ooh siri
Me: haha she's overrated
she just asks if she can google that question for me 99% of the time
Her: yeah so true
Me: and i'm like no siri i thought you were AI. you're supposed to be more than this
i like making fake reminders though
"remind me tomorrow to finagle a bagel at 430 pm"
just to hear her robot voice repeat it
i don't really like bagels
and how do you not like bagels!
Me: i'm more of an english muffin guy mahself
i want food
Me: melted butter on an english muffin freshly toasted?
it's okay we can still get them
i cant eat that yet
Me: i'll just have to like, mush it up in a blender and feed the english muffin to you
it's cool we can manage
Her: i ate a little chicken yesterday though
i was DYING
Me: haha what!
Her: mashed potatoes and slush is not enough to feed a girl
it took a reaaaaalllly long time because i had to chew it forever
but when theres a will theres a way
believe me there was a will
Me: i'm sure it was a beautiful sight witnessing you trying to chew and swallow a tiny piece of real food
like one of those pelicans that throws the fish up in the air and just lets it slide down its throat cuz it doesnt have teeth
Her: let me rip your tonsils out!
see how well you can eat
Me: do it you wont
Her: you're right i wont
i was on drugs and i asked them if they were going to save my tonsils in a jar and put them on a shelf filled with jarred tonsils like in hey arnold
but they said no
apparently they are sent to a lab and then disposed of
i think it's a cop out
Me: hahaha you still remember that episode??
...don't tell me you still watch it...
Her: well i have been watching it latelyt
because what else am i doing
but DUH i still remember
Me: that's cute
i think my favorite was Are You Afraid of the Dark?
that and legends of the hidden temple
Her: omg legends
the amanda show was really the best
Me: only thing that pissed me off was they had way too many indian guys guarding the statue pieces. like wtf there's almost 1 in every room
and they would like pick up the kids
thats so unfair
Me: yeah and fondle them
Her: or they'd like surprise jump out from behind them
i'd be like dude WTF
show yourself or fark off
Me: hahaha yeah they'd pop smoke and the guy comes running through, molests the boy or girl, then runs away with half of the only token you have... d1ck
what was the grand prize? wasn't it like, a weekend to disney world?
Her: i have no idea at all what they won actually
Me: or Epcot or something? i can't remember
Her: but in guts
Me: probably because they never won
Her: you won a glowing peice of the awesome rock
Me: oh man
yeah! i completely forgot about that!
Her: now THAT is a prize
Me: hell yeah it is
i'd frame that in one of those museum glass boxes and keep it forever
Her: i bet its worth big bucks
Me: haha the huge foam boulders they threw down at you
the agro crag
get it right
Me: hahahaha omg wtf
Her: i watch way too much nickelodean
Me: you've been watching re-runs this whole week you deprived thing
we need to go outside
Her: i sat outside for like 10 minutes today
it was exhausting
Me: don't worry, i'll get you those special elderly people glasses with the side tint so you don't go blind from the sun!
Me: you don't sound excited
Her: im more excited about chicken wings
Me: chicken wings? what the ones im making?
i'm making butter garlic wings for dinner
not even a lie
Me: are you stalking me?
Her: so i live like
like close enough
Her: that those chicken wings could pretty much fly themselves here
Me: you live in my closet?
well yeah since you've come clean about it you can come out of there and just eat them like a normal person
Her: boys closets have cooties
Me: but after you have like, 2 im gonna have to ask you to leave
lol i have a cooties closet and you're a stalker in my closet. i don't know about you but i know which one of these looks bad in the eyes of the law
Me: haha fine have it your way. i'll keep these tasty wings to myself then
Me: that's what you get!
Her: im sad
i just want to eat everything
Me: hahaha.. i'm making fried chicken tomorrow for our cook out too
Me: annnd pizza frittata tomorrow for breakfast
Her: i hate you
Me: and probably dates stuffed with goat cheese and sprinkled with crushed almonds that are broiled until the cheese melts and everythings all toasty
they might sound a little different but they're wicked good
Her: ew that i wont eat
Me: you mean you can't eat
Her: even if i could
i hate goat cheese!
Me: i'd make you try it if you could actually eat
Me: this isn't that gross crumbly kind, it's more like cream cheese
Her: its goat cheese
Me: the salad kind is way too bitter
Me: your taste is yucko
Her: youre yucko
Me: lol actually with your current condition, goat cheese would probably be the best thing out of everything im making to help soothe your throat
Me: lol you're a bad liar
Her: i need protein
im a good eater
feed me chicken
Me: i'm yucko and you're a good eater?.. i think i just stepped in bullsh1t
and not with an attitude like that young lady
Her: nice try
Me: say please
Me: you will get nothing from me
not until i hear the magic words!
Her: no way
i want to eat everything
Me: well eat your foot cuz you aint gettin nothing from me
the wings will be mine
so... stick that in your mouth and eat it
i need to get dressed
thats so much effot
Me: so you're naked talking to me right now on fb?
no im in jammies
Me: haha yeah right
jenny's naked jenny's naked!
that's cool i'm only in my boxer briefs right now. too damn hot and i gotta do some P90X before the day's through!
Her: omg that was so hard getting dressed
Me: you're not getting my wings
so don't even think about it
i only took one dosage of percosets today
you should be proud
im doing great
Me: haha i was on 3 meds when i had poison ivy... definitely wasn't good enough to drive
yeah i am not allowed to drive
not like i can though im way too tired
Me: that's good
Her: i went on a 5 minute car ride with my sister and had to lay down in the backsear
because i thought i was gonna be sick
Me: hahah what the
Her: the medicine is way too strong
i threw up all the first day
like it sucked so bad
is it so painful that you need to take them though?
Her: i'm trying to take less of it now but tylenol doesnt work as well
Her: i was taking it round the clock for a week straight though
so thats not good haha
Me: yeah especially with nothing in your stomach
Her: but i couldnt eat! and without taking meds i reaaally couldnt
but when i took them i got sick
so it was just a bad time
Me: that's so sad.. i'm not even going out tonight probably because of all the prep for tomorrow
if you weren't such a stalker we couldve had some nice chicken wings, some ice cream, and watched a movie
Me: oh well
haha hey i thought i had cooties
don't wanna get you more ill
Her: i guess you're right
anywho i need to try and eat something
so i'll chat later!
enjoy your wings
i'm highly jealous
Me: haha alright feel better little guy
it was fun catching up
Her: i'm a girl!
but yes stay in touch mister
Me: omg really?
Her: actually better yet lets not stay in touch
Me: lol it's an expression little GIRL chill your nips
Her: MY NIPS?
okay im done now
Me: haha it's time for someone's nap...