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Thread: Timeframe to Number Close

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    Default Timeframe to Number Close

    So I'll keep it right to the point I am having major difficulty securing phone numbers with online sources

    Usually what has occurred is I'll send the initial message not asking for a number. When they respond I will ask for the number. However, I have not found a consistent time frame to getting the number. Some I have tried to close as a follow up to their response and others I have had a substantial conversation. I've also varied my wording too.

    Not looking for any magic line, just looking on feedback for how long roughly before going for the Number Close or any other relevant tips

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    The rule of thumb that I follow is that I wait until they start asking ME questions. Personal ones a that. If she asks you "What kind of girl are you looking for?" You're golden. Do a bit of qualification to seal the deal and just leave her your phone number. This is roughly how I finish the convo:

    "Hey, I gotta say I'm really surprised by you. You're a sweetheart and our convo has been refreshing. I'm going to leave you with DA DIGITS! Lol. Shoot me a text when you get this. Oh...and if you're one of those women that don't message a guy first, don't worry. I'll message you back twice to make up for it "
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    So there really isn't a time frame?

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    Not really. It's a judgement call. As soon as you start receiving ioi's I would say go for it. You generally want to Number Close as quick as possible, but using IOI's as your ruler. So if you start seeing IOI's like 6 exchanges in, it's time to wrap it up and go for the number. Exactly what Batman said. If they start asking you personal questions, that is a big IOI. You also don't want to take 2 weeks to close one number just because you aren't really receiving any IOI's. Just use your best judgement and go for it.

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    Quote Originally Posted by Swish View Post
    So I'll keep it right to the point I am having major difficulty securing phone numbers with online sources

    Usually what has occurred is I'll send the initial message not asking for a number. When they respond I will ask for the number. However, I have not found a consistent time frame to getting the number. Some I have tried to close as a follow up to their response and others I have had a substantial conversation. I've also varied my wording too.

    Not looking for any magic line, just looking on feedback for how long roughly before going for the Number Close or any other relevant tips
    Hey man, the other guys who replied to you are right too but I wanted to give my perspective as well because I have a different approach that might be more beginner friendly. It will require more work initially but save you time in the long run. The alternative to what they're describing is to write your own set routine and test it out, then tweak until you have a very high response rate. A routine will have a set of questions and be able to adapt to a variety of different responses. You would think this wouldn't work, but copy-and-paste online msging has gotten me dozens of numbers in just a short time. However, I make up for my bland online approach with a very strong text game, developed from all the texting I did in high school trying to get my little 14-year old d1ck wet. You can find lots of routines online, including on this msg board. I wouldn't model any particular one, just try out different ones and learn the patterns of what makes girls respond. When you get it right, you'll feel it...you'll be a PUA, albeit only an online specialist like me lol. Walk by faith, not by sight. Urbancowboy out, holding the fortress down!

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    Oh, one last thing...I NEVER give a girl MY number. I think it's too beta, so I ask for hers. IF she doesn't wanna give it to me (or she seems like she does but she's hesitant) I tell her something along the lines of, "I don't have time to waste waiting around for you to text me. I'm a busy guy. What's your number?" You'll figure out your own version of that response that fits your personality and game. If she still doesn't give me a response after that, I move on. Most girls will though, they'll just wait 24-48 hours to see if you're serious. Remember, you're a serious PUA and a busy guy...you can't be waiting around for girls to text you. YOU are the prize.

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    Default Re: Timeframe to Number Close

    You know honestly in my experience giving out my number has always resulted in the girl texting me first. I've done it both ways

    Since I posted this I've tried a little more comfort I try to ask three questions which kind of escalate in terms of how personal the question is. I also try to make them qualify themselves more through teasing and what not


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