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    Default How long does it take for PUA to start LTR

    If we talk about sticking points mine has been that I never had a girlfriend. I´ve had so many 1-4 week things going on but they just didnt go further. Everything that happens after couple of first dates is still new to me. I need pua dating for dummies now.

    How many dates you should have before starting relationship (not number, in general)? I just realized that transformation from coffee shop dates to dinners and stuff would be good date escalation ha.

    I would like to have f-close before dating but this last girl I had had watched too much tv-shows and I think she had policy of dating first and then fking. Thats not just how I wanted it.

    What do you do when you date? Do you ever get to point where you just spend whole week together? Should you see her every day? Do you ever make it facebook official? This might gather attention but also creates problems if you meet new girls.

    As you can see I´m puzzled about this whole LTR thing, could somebody help me out a little? :]
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    Default Re: How long does it take for PUA to start LTR

    Well first of all there is no set time. When you feel that it is time to take it to that level then take it to that level. secondly the whole "I would like to have f-close before dating but this last girl I had had watched too much tv-shows and I think she had policy of dating first and then fking. Thats not just how I wanted it." That is just a false belief that you have. Bring her into your reality. Check out this field report to see how I got a D1 F- close even though she said she didn't fark on the first date-http://www.puaforums.com/pick-up-field-report/22431-d1-fr-how-my-van-got-me-laid.html Also check out some field reports to see what other guys do and what you can use in your game. Hope this helps.
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    Default Re: How long does it take for PUA to start LTR

    Well man it's nice to know there's other guys out there like me who want a LTR and not just trying to get laid. But on to the mainpoints. The whole GF thing. I had 20 or so GF's when I was 16-20 and never really went on dates just hung out. Went on my first few dates when I was 20 and 23. Hadn't had a date in 7 years and went on my first date last weekend and gamed 50 plus girls to get that date but only asked 4 of them out. I realized recently I wasn't setting up dates which was part of my frustration in the long term texting so I switched it up to always start asking now. Dating an HB8 pretty face and nice body. Rather date a hotter female but she was the hottest one I could find at the Club. She's like 40 and I'm 30. So anyway we went on a perfect date held hands, light Kino, and k-close. Got bored of her already. But I am successfully leading her on for the next 3 weeks. Told her I was super busy let's hang out in a couple of weeks, she was like cool. Don't really want to bag her but I enjoy her company so going to keep dating her for now.

    So what have I learned? I never thought I would get to the point in my game to be dating someone but now I am! Now I used to scare girls off by coming on too strong and being needy but now I am just cool, confident, and comfortable being myself. So what is my plan? TBH any pretty girl I used to like I got oneitis in my head and wanted to be with them forever. But now things have changed I am confident now. Meaning I don't have oneitis for the chick I am dating but I should. How does this translate? Well it means I realized I can date as many girls I can handle at any one time. Because we aren't "exclusive" aka Husband & Wife. People view open relationships as a bad thing like you have low self esteem. What they don't realize is all relationships are "open" till you make it exclusive. What does thus mean? It means I am just dating this chick not trying to be FWB since I really don't care about sleeping with her even though she is gorgeous. It means it helped me learn something about myself that I don't want to settle down and tie the knot until I have the body I want, the car I want, the job I want, the stuff I want. Essentially I won't be ready until after 35 then maybe still too young at that point. But before I got in the game I was a loser who fell in love at first sight, put the girl on a pedestal, and got big time oneitis no matter if she was a 6 or a 10. Now I'm not like that I realize how important it is to do my own thing and just focus on me. Before though I was desperate for a soulmate and dreamt about it often times. Now I could have a soulmate but I am just numb to it as I want to keep dating hot women. I plan on really only bagging the super hot ones. So normally in my old AFC thinking I would get oneitis and focus on only one girl. But now that I am dating someone I am going to keep my options open, keep sarging, and find other women to date in the process. One day when I have everything I want I might settle down and get into a couple LTR's. I will have multiple LTR's/GF's as well. Shoot if one dumps me I'll have another in backup. This is why I would never add my GF's on FB to prevent them from finding out about each other.

    The dating scene has changed pal. Girls go to clubs and bars a to meet guys while they have BF's and Ex's. So really to give you brass tax here you really never have to become exclusive until you tie the knot to that one person then it is infidelity if you have an affair. That's why guys have affairs maybe because they were AFC's got Oneitis then got married and never experienced having abundance of women. So my suggestion is to stop thinking the way you are since you are way overanalyzing the whole dating stages and what comes first or what comes next just go with the flow. If she sleeps with you before you start dating she's just a playette anyway and no point in being with her. So I really am just going to have multiple GF's and date multiple women because I really don't think there is any point in settling so soon when you haven't even played the game yet and seen if you can bag a 10. My point is that I used to think traditionally about dating only one person, having one GF, but the game has taught me to act like a Man and just play women to the core until I am ready to settle down. That's the game mate getting a girl that gets you to settle down while you have plenty of options. The game is not about getting the girl anymore that's for AFC's to worry about. Wish I could say more I might write a new thread about this topic, very interesting you hit on a key point there.

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    Default Re: How long does it take for PUA to start LTR

    It comes down to personal preference. Some guys don't mind getting into an LTR before sex. And that's ok. My preference is that we see each other for 6 months. But sometimes they manage to tie me down in 3 :P But that does include quite of bit of sex beforehand just cause that's how I work. I wouldn't even be phased if a woman said she doesn't want to fuck before becoming official. I'd just say "ok" and continue gaming anyways. If she still is stubborn then I will walk away cause that's not the type of woman I like.

    This stuff will change in time. You may be ok with a gf after one date. After some time maybe you'll want to wait longer. Just do what feels right to you.
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    Default Re: How long does it take for PUA to start LTR

    Thanks guys, all of you. I have studied pua for 7 months now and really applied it for 3-4 months now so I still have lot to learn. I have now better understanding for this whole thing. I have to just chill out. My main concern was that I wasnt taking enough charge for taking relationship further but it´s a big relief that it can take 6 months to really start dating. Do you change pace of your dates to more casual like watching tv or something? I mean you cant have first date for ever.
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