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    Default Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Hi everybody, Iīm new in the PUA community, and I need a little advice. I work in a big city center where there are lots of shops, stores and such. I work in a computer shop there, and right next to the my shop is a bakery store where a beautiful girl was working. While she was working there, she was often coming by my store and was always smiling at me, and commenting something funny. Then she got an another job, and went away.

    But in the meantime, I met her in person, and found her on Facebook. We were chatting for two days, and conversation went very well. She was showing the interest the whole time, so at the end of the second day I asked her on a date. She said she is interested, but because she is working the second shifts all the time, she canīt do it this week. In addition, I am working first shifts all the time, so we canīt seem to catch up together. I asked her if sheīs available on weekend, and she said she has some family reunion, so she canīt do it on a weekend to.

    So, I told her that she contacts me if she finds time, and that hopefully I will find time too. After that, conversation kind of stalled, and I wonder what to do? I initiated a conversation several times after that, and everytime she seems interested and all, but after I stop writing she stops it too.. She would never initiate conversation, even though were both online. Also, should I keep on pushing her to find time for our date, or should I wait for her to initiate a date?

    As far as the girl type, she has about 900 Facebook friends, and lots of pictures. But, most of the pictures are her alone on the pictures, and almost no pictures of her with a boyfriend or a male friend. She is not to educated, and can poorly express herself and write grammatically correct sentences. But she is really cute, sexy and kind person, why I want to get to know her better.

    Thank you in advance, I really donīt know how to manage this situation.. :/

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    If you initiate conversation regularly she will notice if you do a Take Away. A girl I was texting after we hooked up at a college party never texted me first I was always the one to start conversation. I did a take away and didn't text her for a week and low and behold she text me asking how I was. Simple and effective.

    You need to work out how to ask her on a date. Some simple things I try to remember are...

    • It is better to tell than to ask
    • Never ask her on a date
    • Have a witty retort at the ready
    Firstly you never say "Hey do you want to..." or "Would you like..." If part of your game is making yourself alpha then talk like an alpha. If you have been AMOG'd you'll get what I mean, they never ask you to leave, they tell you to leave.

    A good example in a slightly different context is the video on youtube of two guys walking up to women and saying "Put your number in my phone" Just search "Put your number in my phone"

    Notice they never say "Can you" or "please"(Well one of them does but don't mind him :P)

    Secondly never ask her on a date in the first place. You have to cheat asking her on a date. It's the same principal as number closing or kiss closing.

    It doesn't matter what you say in your text you could say "Next week I'm taking a chiropractor lessons from Tom Cruise dressed as batman on the moon" but you want to end it with "but might get a few hours
    spare at some point, howʼs your week looking?"

    You never asked her out but he logic will think you did and she will respond in either of four ways.

    1. Yes
    2. No
    3. I'm busy that day but I'm free this day
    4. Sorry I'm busy (Most common)
    If she responds with option four you respond thusly

    "ha ha, you wish! I wasn't offering, if I get a few hours free I'm going to use it to chill out. I love how you were pretending to be busy though. In fact me and my mates were saying just this week people don't tend to lead interesting lives outside of work... so what do you do that's interesting?”

    This is a great because you brush of the rejection with a slight neg and turns the conversation away from that awkward post rejection talk.


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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Thank you Foxes! Really good stuff!

    I have actually never been an alpha male. Iīm not a typical "good guy", but something in between the alpha and a "good guy", but actually leaning to a "good guy" more.

    Thank you again, this sound great. I will try with the Take Away..

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Quote Originally Posted by Zohan Dvir View Post
    Thank you Foxes! Really good stuff!

    I have actually never been an alpha male. Iīm not a typical "good guy", but something in between the alpha and a "good guy", but actually leaning to a "good guy" more.

    Thank you again, this sound great. I will try with the Take Away..

    It's not all about being alpha if you aren't, it's how well you can pull off pretending to be :P

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxes View Post
    It's not all about being alpha if you aren't, it's how well you can pull off pretending to be :P
    I will keep that in mind..

    (I need to write at least thirty characters to be able to post, hence this sentence. )

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Try something light at first....I know with times now everyone is working or going to school whenever they can so its hard to make schedules work out.

    Ive met girls before work, or during my lunch break...try to squeeze in something light somewhere, that way as well it seems casual, but is perfect enough if you can spit your game and make things happen.

    Possibly even as well try to plan something in her area that way your not making her drive 30-45mins away.

    Ask her to grab a coffee or something light in between, maybe even see if you can get her to come out for lunch if you can make it work with your schedules. "Make em an offer they cant refuse"...and if they do refuse it then shes probably not interested...move on.

    Ive done it....one girl was really difficult, was just trying to set up something casual...and she was teasing around..I think it was a shit test, just to see if she could get me pissed or see if I would AFC out......Oh well let it go...stopped contact, then lo and behold a few days later she calls me wanting to do something....and even then she was still playing hard to get but I overcame it...

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Hi guys again. I tried the Take Away. This is the second day I havenīt contacted her on Facebook. But, I ran in to her today. Actually she ran in to me. I was at my job, and she was passing by my shop. I actually didnīŧ notice her at first, because I had a customer. But she said something to me, and stopped in front of the shop for a few seconds. My customer went right away, so she stepped in and said hello.

    She said she was in a rush, because she is going to work, and then started to talk about something irrelevant, like she lost her bus ticket so she had to buy a new one, and that she is working all the time, with no time off, etc. I teased her a bit, and said that she probably has a huge salary considering she is working so much, and considering she is also working in a famous hotel. She laughed at that, so I threw in several more jokes. She laughed at all of my jokes, and then looked at her watch to see if she will be late on a bus. So she went away, and no one mentioned a date.

    I guess all of this means she is interested in me. So I wonder what could be my next move?

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    So, guys, the Take Away isnīt working too well. Itīs been 6 days and she hasnīt contacted yet for a date. Should I wait more, or?

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Alright, I think she went by your shop for a reason man, that's what it seems like to me, but she tried to act like she actually had something to do and only realized you were there after the fact. I would have told her to go on a date then, but its okay not all hope is lost. If its been 6 days I don't see anything wrong with messaging her or texting or whatever, just something funny and casual, nothing like hey it was good to see you or hey what are you doing, say something funny, something that makes her want to respond back, like "so, guess what?!" idk something to get her thinking like what could he say next! then just lay it on her, like hey I need your number since we are going out on blah blah blah date to the blah blah blah, see if that works out man

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    Default Re: Asked her on a date, then the conversation turned down

    Great advice on the Take Away, foxes.

    And yeah, if it's been six days, then send her a text.
    Always be honest with women. That's the true meaning of a PUA.


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