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Thread: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

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    Default Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    Over the last year i've had hella dates(day 2s) and laid around 20 women. Good sh1t right?

    Since then i've lost my job and my car. To top things off i live out in the middle of nowhere. I think you can see what my problem is.

    The thing is what made me such a good date (at my age) was that i could pick em up with flowers in hand, drive them to somewhere fun, pay for a movie or something and then escalate in my car afterwards.

    I can't do any of that anymore now that I don't have a car or job. Now i have to rely on her to pick me up and pay. Being that i live 45 mins from the nearest big city deters most women from going out with me, even if i offer gas money that's a long way for a first date. In ideal situations i can take the bus out to the city and meet them somewhere and drink/smoke. The problem is the buses that go inbetween cities don't run late. Another problem is that i moved back in with my mom and a new rule was no girls are allowed over (probably because of all the women i had in my room the last time i lived here)...

    I farked 3 different girls this week and this was a good week! But... Since i lost my job it's usually more like 1 a month and that's not enough for me.

    Question: Am i dating material anymore? What kinda girl is gonna wanna meet me for a day 2? How can i compensate for not having a car or money and still be seen as a man with high value? how can i make it a good date if i can't buy them anything? o.o
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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    I can understand the pain you're having. I've never been through it myself, but I can only imagine what it would be like, and it sounds hard and terrible.

    To answer your question, yes and no is the answer.

    Yes, you are not date-worthy because your mentality and condition is so poor that it messes you up. Your big area of collapse was when you lost your stable environment. You had become accustomed to a one-track method, mechanical in many ways, that broke and fell apart when the main power supply for it collapsed. So, in the end, you are now down on the level of a washed up pua.

    However, it is never too late to change who you are, and change could help you. There are two ways you can change. Either you can change your outer condition, or you can change your inner condition.

    To change your outer condition requires you to go job searching. You need to get a new job and basically form a new life around yourself. After some hard work and once you are on your feet again, you can return to your ways of old and continue to have a merry time since that worked for you.

    OR, you can change your game completely and try something new.

    Right now, you have no stable routines. I say go into overdrive mode and start socializing with many women in public in the big city. I can say that socializing this entire summer at the beach has massively improved my game and allowed me to think in new perspectives. Participate on the forums actively and experiment with some of the stuff that you see and read here.

    To give you a starter, you appear to be a speed seducer. Thus, I would recommend checking out Suave Kino's stuff. He has a mega awesome speed close that involves painful honesty and I think that it would work pretty well for you.
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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    We ALL need balance in our lives.

    You are feeling incomplete at the moment because you are unemployed. You are using it as a crutch the same way a guy who says they can't get a girl because they are too:

    shy
    short
    chubby
    tall
    skinny
    poor
    or they will come up with a thousand other excuses.

    I have a suggestion for you.

    Get a great resume and then go game some girls in the nearest big city. While you are doing day game you should stop the girls walking by you especially the hot ones dressed up for the office environment and tell them that you think they are cute. Game them.

    Try to Number Close like you would previously and then hand them your resume. Be confident. Tell them you are out applying for jobs and you WANT their help (be assertive in asking). You would be so surprised by how females network with other females and they will help to you find a job.

    The HB9s and HB10s have a lot of pull with their employers to hire and fire. Just like AFCs the bosses will do almost anything for a hot girl hoping they may get lucky. I bet you find a job within 30 days.

    With your time you will feel like you're killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Hunting for babes and a job at the same time, you can't get any more productive then that.

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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    Dave the problem for me isn't the day 1, it's the text game when they ask "when you picking me up?", "what will we do?" and having to explain to them that i have no car or money and still giving them a reason to think i'm still high value. Sure i've laid many women that are hotter than them but that won't necessarily make them wanna drive an hour to come pick me up. I need to make them want me, despite my bad situation.

    Also i'm working hard looking for a job and should find one soon enough.
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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    Since the cause of your downfall is external, I would prioritize on fixing that source.

    There is a popular saying that "we are the products of our environment." So if you are not happy in your current circumstance/enviroment, your emotion and actions will reflect that you are not comfortable and how you perceive yourself. It's the difference between saying:

    "I got no job"

    to

    "I'm looking at several opportunities at the moment. I always feel that it is important to pursue something you are passionate in."

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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by hairypua View Post
    Over the last year i've had hella dates(day 2s) and laid around 20 women. Good sh1t right?

    Since then i've lost my job and my car. To top things off i live out in the middle of nowhere. I think you can see what my problem is.

    The thing is what made me such a good date (at my age) was that i could pick em up with flowers in hand, drive them to somewhere fun, pay for a movie or something and then escalate in my car afterwards.

    I can't do any of that anymore now that I don't have a car or job. Now i have to rely on her to pick me up and pay. Being that i live 45 mins from the nearest big city deters most women from going out with me, even if i offer gas money that's a long way for a first date. In ideal situations i can take the bus out to the city and meet them somewhere and drink/smoke. The problem is the buses that go inbetween cities don't run late. Another problem is that i moved back in with my mom and a new rule was no girls are allowed over (probably because of all the women i had in my room the last time i lived here)...

    I farked 3 different girls this week and this was a good week! But... Since i lost my job it's usually more like 1 a month and that's not enough for me.

    Question: Am i dating material anymore? What kinda girl is gonna wanna meet me for a day 2? How can i compensate for not having a car or money and still be seen as a man with high value? how can i make it a good date if i can't buy them anything? o.o

    Okay hairypua what a thread. I am in the same situation been gaming hardcore since February doing Nightgame mainly and a little bit of Daygame. Now moving out of the big city back in with my Mom and I just turned 30. I can't bring girls home at night or go out and get drunk at Bars but once a month when I go to visit my ex-roommate/best friend. I moved out because he was being too controlling saying I couldn't bring girls there when he was there and that would mean I could never bring a girl home to hookup at night because he said they couldn't crash there and didn't want them hanging out when he was there except for when he was gone (only slight few hours in the day time). I kept an eye on it and he came home way early from work sometimes unannounced so I was thinking "how am I supposed to have a chick here?". Also he didn't want to know about my GF's or hook ups but said I could crash at their place. He is Gay and wants me to be Gay but I told him no I like girls too much. Basically I can bring girls to hang out during the day at my Mom's so I moved in there since she is more supportive. I can still go out about once a month in the big city when I visit him and crash there but would have to hook up at their place. This is a non-issue for me. I used to be very upset by it but I just learned to embrace it.

    As far as my own situation I still have a job and a car so you are kinda screwed there. My suggestion is to focus on getting a car not because girls won't date you because of it but because you are extremely dependent on someone else to get around and go out. I used to date girls all the time while I was HOMELESS and still could have hooked up with them but my self-esteem was too low and too stressed out. For you I would recommend focus on getting a car and employment then get back to gaming girls while at your Mom's. Primarily because as long as you have frame control it doesn't matter. A couple of things. You got laid 20 times recently? Ever heard of STI's man? I mean granted I am super jealous since I haven't scored since I got in the game but man if you keep it up you are going to be a walking STI. So try to tone it down by getting in short term relationships and hooking up for a couple of months then moving on to the next one. I don't think you can keep this up and keep your stick clean. Besides that it's not that easy for me to get laid. All the women I meet regardless of where ends up in communication, dating, then more communication, then more dating, then hopefully a hook up when we have some type of relationship going. For instance I have tried to pull twice and once I actually pulled from the bar but it went south. Girls are so hard to hook up with in SNL game IMO.

    So with that being said I don't think an instant lay is possible for me. In fact I am not going to really try to pull or F-close because girls are so hard to talk to. I will stick with what works which is N-closing, dating, then hooking up with them using some type of relationship as cover. For instance I have a woman now who we went on one date and she didn't pick up on me trying to pull from the Bar, didn't pick up on our date I was suggesting watching a movie at her place, so I will revert back to my old school method where I was getting chicks all the time and hooking up with them. This method is simple getting the dates and communication going and eventually waiting for them to invite me over since me inviting myself over got me my head ripped off. Other than that my woman is like 40 and I am 30 and I have never brought up the whole "I live with my Mom thing" and never going to bring it up. If she asks me about coming over or who I live with I will just simply state I live with family to get away from my Gay roommate and best friend and just sick of roommates. I will frame it like it is cool and change the subject since that is how I will handle it with ease. I suggest a similar method for you.

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    Default Re: Am i even date-worthy anymore?

    Jackk - What's frame control? Where can i learn about framing lol? Yeah i know to watch for STI's lmao. I always ask beforehand if they've been tested recently and how many guys they've been with. I use rubbers when i'm unsure. As for short term relationships, i actually prefer having 1 quality girl as opposed to quantity and i've been searching for my soul mate. I've had 5 short term relationships this year, a few "fuuck buddies", 10 girls who i communicated with prior to our first date which i laid em on and another few girls that just wanted a One Night Stand. If you wanna pull as many girls as me you really gotta work on your image alot before hand - most girls think i'm hott and i'm a smooth talker and that makes it too easy to get a lay.

    Jack i'm confused - first you say you say you've had a ton of girls staying the night and then you say that you haven't gotten any since you got in the game. Which is it.

    As for the job thing i am working on it. I guess you guys are saying i'm not worthy of dating right now. That's what i expected and i've taken all the girls i was in the middle of talking to and am trying to convert them to farkbuddies or relationships in which i dont have to buy em sh1t.
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