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    Default The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    Hey there you guys, i would like to share with you all some of the techniques i've learnt through reading up on covert persuasion techniques. They were originally meant for business purposes, but i've worked on them and altered them to fit for dating
    Anyway, i figured i could use this thread to share with you the various techniques and update them from time to time. I hope to receive feedback from you guys too!

    So here's my first entry.

    Today i shall discuss a principle called the “contrast” principle. This principle is constantly underused because little people consciously know of it, and perhaps it’s better that way, given how strong it is. But nevertheless, if you wish to make a woman do what you want, this principle is an absolute necessity in your arsenal of techniques.


    The contrast principle works like this. You make a succession of requests (usually two is enough), each request getting from “big” to “small”, and the “small” request being the request you wanted to attain all along. That way, due to the huge contrast in the requests, there stands a higher chance your initial intended request (the “small” one) would be attained in the end. Here’s an example of how i use this to my advantage.


    Suppose i want to ask this girl out on a movie date. I’ll ask her “Hey! Are you up for a movie marathon?”. If she agrees then.. good for me -shrugs. But if she doesn’t, giving whatever reason she has (the exception being she’s genuinely busy), then i’d proceed to ask, “well then, perhaps only one movie then?”. This would hugely increase her chances of agreeing to my outing.


    This can work in a variety of ways, for example, if i wanted to ask her out to lunch, i could ask her, “Hey, are you free for the whole of tomorrow?” and if she says she isn’t, then i simply ask, “well, what about just lunch then?”. There are a whole host of varieties, you just have to brainstorm a little more to apply them correctly in your life. Do note that this contrast principle also involves a slight use of the reciprocation principle, which i will tell you about in the future.

    Oh yeah, and i got to admit the movie ” New Moon” ain’t half as nice as the book, plus Jacob looks like he went on steroids too. -grumbles.

    Anyway, if you have anything variation to the use of the contrast rule, i urge you to add it in! and do leave some feedback on what you think!

    Yours sincerely,
    Desmond Leong
    Last edited by DatingRuleBook; 01-11-2010 at 08:14 AM.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    thats some good stuff ill try it out tonight!

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    Wow, the poor guy had to wait two years for his reply, but this seems like good stuff. Teezyy, let us know how it worked out for you

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    Haha yeah and alright Virgil I'll tell you how it went

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    Thanks Teezzy that does have some insight to it.. and I've been struggling with the logistics of dates and what to do so I'll keep it in mind!
    Usually, if I meet a girl at a bar, I meet her again at a bar.. but that just leads to a 'nightlife date' that goes on and on and last summer that worked for me but I couldn't shrug it off to something else, different, or interesting. You know like I enjoy other stuff then drinking beer and throwing darts

    I think I understand you're mentioning of "reciprocation principle", because I reward girls when (and after initial attraction/humor) on things about them, me, and responding to date ideas.

    I asked a girl out the other night, to which she initially ended up flaking, then when she replied I asked if she wanted to tag along since I was already doing something.. but that was at a bar.. so I can forgive her flake for that lol.

    next time, maybe I'll ask her just to split a milkshake with me lol

    thanks, oh I was gonna post about that anyways here.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    So it definitely works! Thanks for this.

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    Yeah, but if you meet up with the girl and you are not what you sent her in the pics, then you will def be out of luck. The girl may be expecting more.. lol

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    OK, call me stupid if you like but.... this "large vs. small contrast thing" makes no sense to me at all in the larger "higher status" domain. Movie marathon? REALLY?? Sounds way too AFC & pathetic to me. Almost SCREAMS "I'm a loser as I have no life except for watching movies".
    What kind of "this is my adventure" signal does that send to a woman? None. Consistent & congruent are keys to me...namely.. "I have a full, busy life that is INTERESTING and that I am confident in".
    I'm open to rebuttal as perhaps there is something I misread or completely missed.
    Cheers!

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    I agree with jhendrixfan this screams AFC women use this type of psycho babble on men but are able to get away with it because they hold the trump card, and we are so desperate when we get N-closes and forget about being alpha men. Movie marathons, and starting with large to small request is good if you are in a relationship but to do this when just meeting women or sarging won't work because you have a small window of opportunity. And besides why put so much effort into one woman who may flake on you when you should be getting multiple numbers to better your chances. If you can work this down to something more doable for sarging then it can be useful but other than that put this on the back shelf with the rest of the business fads. Sorry dude!

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Guide To Getting Women To Do What You Want

    Quote Originally Posted by jhendrixfan View Post
    ...this "large vs. small contrast thing" makes no sense... and Movie marathon? REALLY?? Sounds way too AFC & pathetic to me. Almost SCREAMS "I'm a loser as I have no life except for watching movies".
    1) Large vs Small is the oldest negotiating trick in the history of humanity. Simply put it's like asking $1000 for a used car, when you are willing to accept $800. You ask the higher price expecting the counter offer to match your desired amount.

    2) I am almost 99% sure that the Movie marathon was just an example, not an actual incident.
    Carpe diem!


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