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    Default facebook opening text

    Hey guys,

    Case description:

    Saturday night I met this HB10 in a club , we danced (loads of attraction) before I could even ask she facebook-closed me.

    I barely had any information about her (music was way to loud), but she told me she was a topmodel (which didn't surprise me). Not much rapport at all (very late at night).

    First real mistake I made is that I left after the facebook-close... I should've bought her a drink. Anyways, I did not.

    Text interaction:

    Next morning (sunday) I text her following message:

    ME: "CANCEL YOUR PLANS!! Lunch or coffee, what will it be? I hate coffee. I'll be somewhere in town, text me the location: (my phonenumber)"

    Didn't hear back from her until I arrived back at the airport:

    SHE: "Sorry I can't"

    I waited 36 hours to reply:

    ME: "I was back in Belgium anyway .. ;-)"
    ME: "and damn, I thought I was unlucky with my last name... but that is until I met you."
    ME: "You must be really good at marketing to get that one promoted! "

    When she facebook-closed me, she told me she had a model-name (because her real name is just hideous). I totally ignored the fact that she mentioned she was a model, I did NOT want to put her on a pedestal. Now, by sending her a text about her name, I hoped we could continue our conversation where we left it. I thought it would be an incentive to start talking (because she clearly agrees that it's a bad name, otherwise she wouldn't have a "fake" one.).

    It's been 3 days now, and she hasn't read this text (while she is online sometimes)

    Questions:

    1) where did I lost her ioi?
    2) I liked the texts I send, I try to lower her value ASAP, but I wonder if it's okay to do it this soon?

    The plan:

    If she totally ignores me for two weeks, I'll send a new text. I had something like this in mind:

    ME: "OMG!! You can never believe what I just found...."

    IF she texts back... (What? / tell me.. / etc...)

    ME: "Your voice. Anyway, when will you be in Paris, you still owe me that beer you promised!"

    (I'm not from Paris, but I think it would trigger her attention more. )

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    You texted her the next morning which was quite too soon and not only that but your openner was bad. You didn't build enough rapport and comfort to open like that. I don't think there was any chance of her saying yes. Put yourself in her shoes and think about it.

    Your openner also came out as a bit needy and totally vague and you came out as an AFC. Started out with a good eye catcher but you ended up tossing the ball to her court by telling her you'll be waiting for her call in town somewhere.


    Cut your losses and forget about her and or simply initiate again in the near future. For future reference, try and build rapport with the girl first. You could talk about an incident last night that you both shared so it triggers her memories of you and the fun night.

    String her along and pick out on the things she says that could lead into other subjects you could talk about. You're the prize, not her so never try and impress her but rather let her impress you.

    Sorry if I sound harsh and for bad grammar, I'm writing this on my Note 2.

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    Thanks, I get your point!

    I had to text her this early, because my plane was leaving in the late afternoon... and the next time I would be there is not in the near future (maybe in 2 months). So even if there was only 1% chance it would've worked out, I wanted to take that chance.

    Really solid point that I ended AFC. I was not aware of that, what would be a good ending? (I had to give my phonenumber, because I didn't had wifi connection when I left the hotel)

    Something like this:

    ME: "CANCEL YOUR PLANS!! You have just won a free coffee with ... me. I hope you know this is a 1/2.500.000 chance, so don't disappoint your fellow citizin by declining this one-in-a-lifetime offer!"

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    You could go with

    You: Guess what!
    Her: What?
    You: You won't believe who I'm gonna have coffee with this evening.
    Her: Who?
    You: What'd you say your name was?


    Whether you add "winks" and or ":P" smiley are down to you. I always go for cocky and funny. If I think she might misinterpret something then I add the smiley just to direct her to the right meaning. If she's one of those top models, they love promoting themselves through FB, Instagram etc. I wouldn't be surprised if she has thousands of "friends" on her FB so don't take the exchanging FB thing as a major ioi.


    Don't text her anytime soon. You say that you'll be back in like 2 months? You either move on or try again when you're in town.

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    hmm, definitely an approach I will try-out! Thanks!

    The problem was, I had no time to wait on her interaction (I hoped she would text me). Because we we're going into the old town to see some culture. (and I did not have wifi) So it had to be 1 text !

    About facebook, in most cases that is the fact. In this case she's appears to be different (not a facebook-aholic at all). If I check her profile she has less than 100 pictures (just a small portfolio). She doesn't have too many friends either... (less than 1K)

    ahh well, I'll see when I'll visit again and try to initiate contact again a few weeks upfront.

    Thanks for your advice!

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    Lame,

    Don’t worry about the time it takes from n-close to first contact. You get her contact you can contact her the next day. It is pretty much agreed in the community that all those rules you heard about waiting 3 days before calling apply only when your game is weak and you need 3 days let her know you are un-needy.

    If you made a strong first impression and she likes you, chances are she will be expecting your call. Also, a girl’s attraction is fleeting. It can be like watching a movie, getting caught up in the digital effects and going to sleep and waking up the next moment and it’s forgettable. Also, a girl’s logical side kicks in by then and she might wonder why she gave you her number and can talk herself out of it. So in the future, don’t wait.

    Your opening facebook message – a bit too much (Unless you sounded like that at the time she met you and that is what she was attracted to). Remember I told you to stay congruent to your natural self even in text. If your value to her was high at the time you closed, you don’t have to send texts like these.

    You got the right idea about not putting her on the pedestal, but there was no need to lower her value. Why did you do that? The only reason to do that is if the girl has an obvious Bitch Shield OR is giving herself too much value at the expense of yours. In the language of emotion, you don’t just come right out of the gate and do that.

    Remember, keylock sequence. Build that connection. Something you can only say to that girl because of the moment you shared that night.

    The next thing is you need to move the communication lines from fb messaging to phone.

    What you did there was NOT key lock sequence. Did you even read the book? You tried to do steps 1 2 AND 3 (close for logistics) all in a single opening. Doesn’t work that way!

    Then you tried to lower her value. Ugh. That was a train-wreck.

    I am not surprised that the result is a very low interest target.

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    great information, thanks.

    I certainly need to refresh the key-lock sequence, the biggest problem I'm facing now: I'm currently reading the 4th PUA book, but I find loads of contradictions + a high information overflow. What is the best approach?

    While reading books I try to reflect as much as possible (taking notes) to all the approaches I've done over the past weeks (and every page I turn I have this "FUCK, I messed up." feeling).

    I'll study the keylock sequence tonight.

    I got a big party coming up on saturday, and my goal is to limit my alcohol use & network/approach as much as possible. Looking forward to it!

    If she replies, I'll let you guys know.

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    I keep saying I HATE facebook in the field of picking up chicks. You need a much better game there, then in text. Your opener would be a great one in my opinion, if you had built enough comfort BEFORRE, or if it would have been a TEXT MESSAGE. In facebook, alongside with a dhv-filled profile, you have to bould comfort and attraction, and than move to phone.
    Oh, and I loved Grey2fox's game, I'm gonna try it soon, so thanks

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    So I should've given her my number (and ask hers) instead of facebook?

    Can you ask for both?

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    Default Re: facebook opening text

    Always go for the number! As I've noticed, some HBs tend to rather go for facebook instead these days. It has happened me bunch of times that I asked for a number, she denied it and ask if facebook is ok? No, get lost I usually neg her a bit and ask for a number again. If she still doesn't give me her digits, I just let it go.
    There are some special cases, for example Tinder matches, or if we are in a place with wifi or something like that - in this case, I tell the girl to add me. I tell her how she finds me, name, birthplace, work place - there is a great chance of flaking, but as I said, if she doesn't give me her number, I don't really care about her that much. It's just a last chance to her to find me - so I don't lower my value with going for a search for her. But in the case of Number Close, you have to close her, not giving her your number.

    So go for a number, if facebook close come along with that, that's fine. I'm in this exact situation right now, number- and facebook-closed a girl, but since I used an indirect way, I feel like I should game her in facebook first before I move to phone.


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