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Thread: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

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    Default T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    So, I'm waaaay behind with trying out this whole world of Tinder.
    But, I decided to give it a look a couple days ago. (I'm in a small populated area & even with my settings at 100 miles, I still dusted through all the girls within 30 minutes.) LOL!

    However; I have gotten several matches & decided to start messaging a couple of the girls... just to see how much different it is compared to regular online dating, or in-person.

    The first 3 girls I messaged have all replied back. I sent the exact same message to all three of them...

    I wrote: Heya, you have a fun, energetic vibe about you, so I just have to ask one question... What's something you've never done, but think you'd like to?

    (Let me point out that in addition to having a couple clear/ in-focus face pics, I also have a pic of me para-sailing & one of me zip-lining)

    2 of the girls said they would love to go zip lining... And the other one mentioned para-sailing.

    I'm thinking that the combination of my message/question & my photos is a big part of it. It's like the have an easy answer they can use to "try connecting with me" by answering with one of the activities I've done.

    So, I would recommend that you try coming up with a similar idea to match your message with pictures in your profile.

    OR... you can try using the same message I sent, just for giggles, to see what results you get.




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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Do you think a similar approach would work with an online profile in POF?

    IE have pics of doing those two things and use that as your opener?

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Tinder is a funny one. The first couple days after I installed it I went through and probably clicked on 50 girls. I got about 20 matches and opened around 10 of them with "Hey stranger". Every single one replied and 2 dates have come out of it so far.

    Pretty decent app.. I find there's a lot less bullshit than with online dating considering you're only talking to girls who already basically said they are into you, or the thought of you at least. The conversations run very similar to online dating, however the opener isn't really a big deal.

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Honestly T-Mal I don't think the first message matters as much as it does on a dating website. It still matters, but I've had a few friends say they still get great results with "hey."

    The biggest difference is it's sort of a short attention span sort of app. If you don't grab them and Number Close quickly, someone else is gonna come along. You lose value very quickly, in other words.

    @unstipulated - Something similar to that will work just fine. There are better openers, imo, but it's miles ahead of 90% of the messages she's gonna get. I wouldn't mention your own pics, though. "Hey would you ever like to go parasailing?" This gives off The Vibe that all you do is parasail, which is weird. My example is a bit dramatic, but even something milder along those lines I would advise against. Letting her mention it is fine though, as T-Mal did.

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    As of right now I got what not to do:
    ∑ -Anything that just says "Hi, Hello, Hey there" etc... will be totally ignored.


    - Complementing, OR sounding insecure & trying to sell yourself to the girl, will get you nowhere.


    Also, I'm wondering how to 'move' her:
    /online-dating-tips/25633-okcupid-how-respond-hey-there-2.html#post117544

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Complimenting her isn't at all bad. Complimenting her looks is. You can compliment a piece of jewelry, the grammar/spelling of her profile, etc. The trick is you essentially say "you are a cut above the rest and I am on par with you" rather than saying "you're out of my league."

    Keep in mind some girls won't respond - 60% or more of their decision is still based on how attractive you are physically, and if there's "nothing there" for her, then she simply won't respond. Don't take it personally. Another reason is you may think she's attractive but she'll look at your profile and realize that you two wouldn't really click, and again, will not respond (the two are different, by the way. In one she's just saying you aren't on her level, the other is saying you are cut from separate cloth).

    This is why your profile pictures are so important. The best tool you can use is OKCupid's photo rating system. It's fantastic. You'll learn which photos are the best after about 5 runs of the thing (trust me it takes at least 5, you'll get a few lemons). Try taking some new photos and pitting them against current ones, see how things change. To give you an idea of how powerful it is, I would describe myself as slightly above average looking, with a slim build - so nothing terribly special, on the HS (hot stud) scale, I would describe myself as a HS6.5-7. With my first photo set, I got "chosen" in OKC's photo rating system about 60% of the time. When I took a new photo with my niece's DSLR camera with good lighting and vibrant clothing/etc., it jumped to 95%. Seriously. Also - don't scrap the photos that don't necessarily make it too far, things like group photos won't be chosen simply because they won't know who you are, but at least 1 group photo is necessary for any profile - shows you have friends. Also far off shots of you cliff diving or whatever also won't get rated high because they can't see you. <--what that means is it also lowers the 95% I was talking about slightly, because some chose me simply because they couldn't see the other guy, but still, photos are hella important.

    I know T-Mal pushes the importance of photos as well, and the guy is an online god. But that's not what you were asking about.

    Here's how I typically describe how the online interaction SHOULD go - You send her a flirty, interesting, short message. She looks at your profile, she decides you are interesting and messages back. You flirt for a bit online, Number Close. So essentially the beginning message does TWO (2) things:

    1) Catches her attention so she looks at your profile - your profile needs to be awesome.
    2) Sets up the tone of the future conversation.

    You need to remain relatively consistent in tone. If you start off with a pickup line, for instance, and she responds, keep being flirty. If you instead vouch for T-Mal's chosen method (it seems) of being more sincere (mentioning her profile, complimenting her grammar, etc.), she's gonna be confused if you suddenly go ham on the flirtatiousness.

    And here I am hi-jacking T-Mal's thread. Sorry dood.
    @unstipulated - if you want more help I would suggest creating a new thread and asking specific questions. Lots of people here willing to help.

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Great reply Legend, I'm in education and I know the importance of discourse.

    Truly, I love your example of the compliments. It makes sense, i guess, to say hey nice watch over you are good looking--i like. Nevertheless, I'm looking for a quick guide to online game. For instance, intial reply---bring it to skype or phone..

    However, I'm seeing that the legacy info (such as demonstrating value) still exists. I'm saw somethings from Sin, and daygame, that made me wonder if it's needed. And, at the moment I'm thinking it is.

    Thanks again to the community, it's amazing way to truly learn.

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    Default Re: T-Mal's Tinder experiment

    Anti manifesto alert.

    Stop fannying around with routines/patterns and that bum Fluff just tell her what you want - a date. Dont just say 'i want a date' have abit of imagination.


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