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Thread: Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

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    Default Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

    Hey, so I worked out a great loose opening message template for online dating... I'd say it gets about a 60-70%% response rate, which for online dating is pretty good!

    Now even though I have used this as a basis for ultimate success (meeting/sex/relationships/whatever I felt like doing) on a nice handful of occasions over the six months or so, what I need help with is perfecting the conversation chain after the initial opener in order to get a better turnover of meets (Number Close isn't generally a problem but texting just involves a continuation of the messages).

    The message (which is something I adapted from a post I read on another forum) goes like this...

    Hey, so you seem like you wouldn't be too bad to spend time with I mean you're creative (always call them creative, girls love to hear that and they all believe that they are) you've got great taste in ____________________ (insert something that you've read from their profile)plus __________________ (insert some funny observation from one of their pictures/tease them about something). But I've been tricked before! So I need to play a game to make sure (insert something here about them being a number two in a world takeover bid, or say it's nothing sexual)... You ready?

    Like I said... 60-70% of the time you'll get something back like 'Hell yeah! or Let's play!

    Then spend a few messages hyping the game... it's called love it or hate it... you send them questions like 'pizza' or whatever and they say 'love it or hate it'... the idea is that they think these questions reveal deep insights into their personality, and you should play on that....

    Depending on who you are talking too this can turn real sexual real fast, or it can get pretty deep, which a lot of them like, or it can be light... you've just gotta calibrate.

    The problem is that about three quarters of the time the game will fall flat after about four or five questions and get boring (both for me and her) and in the end the convo breaks down... My question is, how can I stop this from happening? Is there a perfect series of questions we can work on? Should I just work on jumping the convo to something else? (Which does work depending on who you are talking to... but you know what a lot of online dating girls are like... one word answers and no depth!)

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

    Honestly Broski I think the problem you're running into is you're messaging different personalities with the same template. Girls are all different, and they have different things that attract them and different interests, so some will respond positively to this, but to others it'll feel awkward and forced, and they'll convey that to you through either not messaging back or giving short answers that will kill the convo.

    Might not be the answer you're looking for but if I had to say how to fix it I'd say get a read on her personality through her profile and figure out if "it will work" before you send it. If it won't you may have to get a bit more original with that particular girl. Make sense?

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    Default Re: Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

    After 2-3 questions you should disqualify her. Take this train of conversation:

    You: Pizza?
    Her: Love it!
    You: Beer?
    Her: Love it!
    You: Justin Bieber?
    Her: Hate it!
    You: What?! And here I thought I found the perfect girl to grab some pizza and beer and listen to my Bieber collection with, and then you go ahead and tell me you're not a Belieber? Well this relationship will never last :P

    There's your answer. The key to any good opener is that you can't just agree with everything the girl says. In fact, with my targets, I never agree with them.
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    Default Re: Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

    I like to say 'pinapple.....i like pineapple' normally after that its a number/kiss and f close all in one before weve even met

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    Default Re: Worked Out a Great Opening Message Template, Need Help Perfecting It...

    I like the idea for sure.
    And I pretty much did the same sort of thing myself...

    Create a "template" of sorts, and would make little variations based on the individual girl.

    The reason I did this was, I could more easily identify the types of girls who "got me" & my sense of humor, while simultaneously weeding out the ones who I knew I wouldn't jive with very well.

    The thing to remember is this:
    You can't stay on one particular subject / theme for too long, or it WILL get stale & fizzle out.

    TheDuke gave a great example how to throw a playful comment into the mix after just a couple questions, as a way to make things more interesting & more engaging.

    It's a playful "disagreement".. . not necessarily a neg, but almost in some sense.

    When you always agree with a girl, or always like what SHE likes, THAT too will become boring. So, taking a playful jab at her / teasing her occasionally, will keep the interaction more fun & less predictable.

    "Predictability" is an attraction killer.

    That said, I've actually used a very similar "game" of sorts. I'll ask her stuff like:
    "Pizza or tacos?"
    "Regular or decaf?"
    "Pancakes of waffles?"
    "The country or the city?"
    "The beach or the mountains?"
    "Summer or Winter?"
    etc...

    And just the TheDuke suggested, I'll make little comments here & there, just to egg her on & get her more interested...

    After the 3rd or 4th question I'll make a comment like, "Pancakes? Waffles are SOOOO much more fun! How can you resist the allure of those little squares? They just have a certain sexiness about them... And if you really think about it, you know I'm right. "

    By dropping the word "sexiness" into the mix, it also starts to open the door for escalation. If she doesn't tell me that she thinks my message was inappropriate, then she's given me permission to continue escalating.




    Or if she says she likes Winter more than summer, I might say something like: "Are you crazy? Summer is SOOOO much better! Just think of all the hot guys covered in sunscreen... their skin all slick & shiny... Because I'm a sucker for oiled up girls, so I'm assuming you check out the dudes... right? heehee!"

    Again, mentioning something more sensual / playfully teetering on the edge of sexual, to see how she responds.

    If she replies with something playful / positive? It's game on with the escalation!

    That's ONE way you can quickly escalate & rapidly build attraction, which also makes your future text exchanges more fun.
    I mean seriously, THAT is gonna be WAAAAAAAY more effective than asking about school, or work.

    It also sets the frame early on, that you're NOT looking for just another "friend" & it keeps you from being put in the friend zone.

    Using descriptive words that paint a mental picture in her head, will definitely get her hooked.



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