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Thread: Best way to improve your textgame?

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    Default Best way to improve your textgame?

    Hey guys!

    It's been a while since my last post, but I'm still lurking here every day ;-)

    My situation:

    At the beginning of my "tinder-career" I developed this script where I would play an quiz-type game (basicly I asked 3 retarded questions). My Number Close rate was close to 90%.

    The problem I have with running a script: IT'S SO F UCKING BORING. Therefor I stopped running these type of scripts... I prefer to really find out what works/what doesn't. The only "problem" I have right now: I get blocked so often after exchanging a few texts.

    Basicly I just type anything that appears on my mind. Whenever I reread the text and I think "Oh damn, this is harsh." or "Oh damn, this is too much." I just send it anyway. Reason? I want to know how they will react!

    The best thing is, I often filter out the "boring" girls. While the "funny" types notice that I'm just fooling around with them. But these type of girls are really rare...

    Question:

    Is this the best approach on how to calibrate what works/what not?

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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    With that sort of thing Ive found that trying too hard up front can turn a lot of girls away, especially if you can't continue it onwards and upwards later, and its a waste of time with no guarantee. For that type of texting I'm actually quite conservative at first. I will ask simple questions about their location, job, where they're from etc. I'll try and be funny and different but I don't go overboard in any direction. I don't make it an interview but key intel initially gives me an idea of how responsive a girl is and what subjects I can continue off on. I can then very easily calibrate and form an idea of who to invest my time in.

    Just like in real life often the first thing I say is simply 'Hey' and take it from there. I am being a little bland at first but that's simply to politely switch me from being a stranger to an actual real person - and her too. It establishes an initial connection and trust like a handshake. The girl will get to know my name, job, location and a few other key details. Actually it's also partly because after so many years of writing to girls I get lazy and I also realised that is often all you need to say upfront. Less is more.

    I almost act like it is the girl who is chasing me, even if I am chasing her. All I am doing initially is 'investigating', not wasting time trying to impress everyone instantly. Any opportunity that arises after that I pounce on it to start escalating, being funny, being cocky, being fascinating etc or to test a girl. I slowly unravel my personality to encourage curiosity about me. I also often send photos or an entertaining picture. A picture says a thousand words.

    You don't have to be a hollywood movie straight up though, you just need to form a connection and enable the girl to feel comfortable in writing back. Then you will know what turns on each girl. If you have that connection already - that trust you are genuine and not d1cking around - it's far less likely they will delete you. You are a person, a 'contact' instead of a stranger.

    If a girl doesn't not respond in a day I delete them. Girls who are boring or too insecure etc I delete them. Sometimes really hot but narcissistic girls I will delete too. You need to be the one deleting girls from your contacts rather than the opposite way around.

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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    I got good at Tinder just by saying whatever came to mind until I slowly figured out what worked and what didn't. I'm confused why you're getting blocked. What are examples of what you're saying?
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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    It's always fun to experiment with different messages and questions to see which ones will create a good response. Have fun with Tinder and don't get too attached to one match. What's great about Tinder is that there plenty of girls that you get matched with to experiment with

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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    Here's a few more tips.

    One Mind
    When you text a lot of girls I notice many of their conversations are essentially the same and what evolves is I often start talking to girls like I already know them. Initial texts with a new girl are just a continuation of the last convo I had with a girl I already know for a while or have even been with. Instead of it being lots of different girls it's like I am talking to a group consciousness of many girls that become 'one'. So instantly almost every girl will feel like they already know me. It's hard to explain but I just start talking as if I already know them and vice versa. When you chat with a lot of girls naturally you start bypassing certain uneeded elements of courting and its almost like you chat to them like they are already your girlfriend.

    Like Minded
    When you are around women all the time you start talking like them and it's not neccesarily a bad thing. If a girl wants to chat with me about her new shoes I will because I like women who are fashionable, it builds comfort and attraction, makes them want to talk to me more (they know they can discuss anything with me no matter what) and makes them realise I have experience with women and understand them (pre-selection). I can also sexually escalate off almost anything related to fashion (sexy shoes, nice legs, matching color underwear under that skirt? Do you have stockings and suspenders?). If a girl says she likes art, talk about art. If she says she likes dancing, talk about dancing. Be a good listener. You will have her in no time. Meanwhile other guys are crapping on about their pecs or football training. You win by other guys loosing - Art of War.

    Mentoring the Mind
    Maybe this is because I'm a little older but sometimes I mentor them. Often I see in certain girls insecurity, weakness or uncertainties and rather than shy away from that I confront them about it. I genuinely like helping people. I lead them. It does a number of things: dhv (the wise owl with a young heart), demonstrates I understand women and relationships - therefore I must be somewhat good with relationships and desirable as a result, slightly friendzones them lowering their defense and makes me slightly unobtainable (she has to chase me). I don't try and be a teacher or a father figure but in stating bluntly something about life or relationships or them - either as sage advice or even a tease, helps build attraction. Sometimes this is the result of a girl asking for genuine advice. sometimes they raise insecurity about themselves or perhaps even they are testing me 'what do you think about my friend? She is dating this guy and blah blah blah what would you do?'. Whatever it is I give an authoritive and thoughtful answer because I usually do know about it, whereas many other younger guys chasing them are just blabbing on trying to be cocky and get in their pants. I do that too but there's some charm, intellect and maturity behind it and I think a lot of women find that appealing. You have to be fun but a lot of guys forget that being clever is also a huge turn on for women. Being clever is also understanding yourself, being comfortable with yourself and confident in what you want.

    Audio Visual Mind
    We are audio visual animals with exceptional visual capabilities and expression. Most people have smart phones so use pictures, GIF's, emoticons and audio to your advantage. Why text all the time when you can send a voice message here and there and they can hear your sexy deep voice. Why try and write a lengthy description of your emotions when you can send a GIF that relays it just as well and makes them laugh.

    Pro Mind
    If you watch any pro pickup artist there are a few major things in common that don't often get discussed:
    1) They are not fat, they are reasonably slim and healthy. If you are slim don't be afraid to send girls your picture. If you are fat stop making excuses and start a more healthy lifestyle.
    2) They are smart and well read. Don't be afraid to share knowledge with women about the world. They love fascinating stories. Readers are leaders.
    3) They like to discuss, mentor and are knowledgable about relationships or life. So do women, so that often becomes the common ground for building a strong connection and can demonstrate pre-selection.

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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    cool number closing rate!

    remember it might be boring but it works

    just say something simple that grabs their attention
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    Default Re: Best way to improve your textgame?

    Hey LAME,

    I hope your date with that Belgian girl went well! Anyways...

    Ugh, don't use a script...

    Not only is it boring, it only conditions your mind not to improve and adapt.

    Everyone here on puaforums and even PUA coaches has their own style and philosophy of texting. There is no one style that will work on ALL women.

    The best advice I can give you to improve your text game is

    - No matter what style/method/w/e you pick, when you text a girl it should be self-amusing. It shouldn't have to feel like a chore. It shouldn't have to feel you have to overthink. Overthinking reinforces anxiety = inner game fail.

    - It should be congruent to you and sound like how you would talk. You don't want to wear shoes bigger than you can fill. Same with texting. So if you are not a cocky person and that is not your style, don't try to sound cocky via text. I've seen situations in online games or some chatroom where guys are really good writers, but when they finally hookup with the girl irl, the girl is disappointed with some introvert. If it is congruent to you, and a girl is not interested, then at least you can say I was genuine/authentic and myself. Nothing worst than getting blown out for not being yourself.

    - Read different texting guides. I know you've read Bobby Rio's book. Keep an open mind and learn as much as you can. Never restrict yourself. Challenge yourself. Eventually, you will find what works for you. You will find out what you are most comfortable with.

    - In terms of calibration, what is universally taught in the PUA circles is "less is more." The rest is common sense. Don't be some newbie who looks up cool text openers and say a high risk text that is too strong/sexual.

    Just remember, the art of seduction is not via text. After all, you don't fvck words on a screen. The text game is to bring it to an in-person game (the real deal) and it should be done in a simple efficient manner. If you can get the girls to meet you in real life in the least amount of words possible, that is all that matters.


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