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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    First of all, gratz on getting D2

    What you been through is nothing new. A girl's investment in you will fluctuate. It could've been there was a lot on her mind and it wasn't you. If she was like that from the beginning of the date, then she probably had a bad day or much on her mind, hoping time with you will remedy it.

    I've been through the same thing. Good convo but the girl seem to have much on her mind. Doesn't mean she likes you any less.

    When a girl is like this, not the right moment to go for a kiss. To even get to that point, you need to put her in the moment with some mad skillz, escalate her properly with a series of Kino for compliance testing. Read her body language and IOIs.

    Many guys kiss the wrong moment and get refused. If her mind is not there nor the attraction, this will happen. Also not all girls will be that easy to kiss. Some girls are conservative and some more liberal with kissing. Gauge accordinly.

    Just plow through and set up D3. Don't even bring up about the miss kiss in the future. And definitely don't apologize for what you've done!

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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    Quote Originally Posted by I.M.Mortal View Post
    First of all, gratz on getting D2

    What you been through is nothing new. A girl's investment in you will fluctuate. It could've been there was a lot on her mind and it wasn't you. If she was like that from the beginning of the date, then she probably had a bad day or much on her mind, hoping time with you will remedy it.

    I've been through the same thing. Good convo but the girl seem to have much on her mind. Doesn't mean she likes you any less.

    When a girl is like this, not the right moment to go for a kiss. To even get to that point, you need to put her in the moment with some mad skillz, escalate her properly with a series of Kino for compliance testing. Read her body language and IOIs.

    Many guys kiss the wrong moment and get refused. If her mind is not there nor the attraction, this will happen. Also not all girls will be that easy to kiss. Some girls are conservative and some more liberal with kissing. Gauge accordinly.

    Just plow through and set up D3. Don't even bring up about the miss kiss in the future. And definitely don't apologize for what you've done!
    thanks.i understand what you mean,"a woman at a different time" She told me that she woke up way early and that she smoked some Weed before our morning date.maybe that was a reason.So i guess i should keep texting her and peaking her interest?


    your advice is similar to the Direct Dating Summit PUAs. by any chance, do you know 'The Naturals' like James Marshall,Jon Matrix,Liam Mcrae and Direct guys like Sasha Daygame,Alan Rodger Currie? these guys are my inspiration.

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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    Yep that could be it. And to be honest, that was all on her and nothing on you. When you go on a date, both parties should be bringing their A game. So if you assume the frame of the "chooser" she should be the one impressing you. Think of yourself as the boss and she is the interviewee for a job.

    Next time, if you know she got herself baked before meeting you, disqualify her...but do it playfully. One out of many examples is role-play. Here's something I made up.

    Professor/student

    [Make a cool memorable statement from your conversation with her if you make an opinion and she agrees]
    YOU: "So remember that, engrave it in your head. Professor [YOU] is going to have it on the final exam at the end of the semester. Lay off the weed, I'd be disappointed if you fail the GAT exam.

    HER: What's the GAT exam?

    YOU: Girlfriend Admission Test.

    Just keep plowing and hopefully things pick up one of the dates. You have exposure to PUA so it's unlikely she will get bored.

    I know of those PUA coaches you speak of. That's cool they said the same thing. "A woman at a different time." Word.

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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    well currently things are going down hill right now.she went from "minimal texts" to "no response" to my texts.i feel like asking whats wrong,but it may come out as too needy. i do remember her saying saying on D2 that she wouldnt be free to meet up with me again till march of 2015 cause shes busy with work(which i see as a way of saying she dont wanna see me).and she also asked WHY do i want to kiss her?,which i replied with "cause im attracted to you",and she giggled and looked down.this girl confuses the hell outta me with her "act like everything is normal but grow distant" routine. havent spoken to her since friday of last week.

    and now i noticed this post sounds needy -.-

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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    Ok I just caught wind of the "I will be busy til March 2015." I must've missed that.

    That is pretty much when I will respond. "You know what? It's okay. It's obvious you are not excited enough about this. It was nice meeting you."

    As far as you are concerned and should frame yourself...It's either a "fvck yes" or "no"

    I did forget to mention to you that sometimes the girl's investment in you will fluctuate because she is just crazy (high strung, has trust issues, abandonment issues, etc). You don't know her story.

    She might've felt momentary attraction when you told her that. I've seen that look too in girls as well. Then once she leaves her logical mind kicks in and her mental burdens take its toll.

    When you answered her "because im attracted to you" that's cool you were direct, but personally, I feel you are giving up value here. Why would you be attracted to someone who wasn't all there on D2? I would've just said "Because I want to see where this goes" that is being honest with your intentions.

    I don't know your texts or the exact details on your game when you went out to D1 and D2, so it's hard to comment. But I wouldn't worry too much about this one. Sometimes, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

    Next this one and keep on swinging.

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    Default Re: Need help/advice to Regain Control

    "When you answered her "because im attracted to you" that's cool you were direct, but personally, I feel you are giving up value here. Why would you be attracted to someone who wasn't all there on D2? I would've just said "Because I want to see where this goes" that is being honest with your intentions"

    yea I was pretty stump when she said that...it was the only response I could think of at the time.

    " Sometimes, the juice is not worth the squeeze.Next this one and keep on swinging"

    and that's what I plan on doing. until later on in the future if something comes ups


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