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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    Well, like I said when I started this thread, I've never been in this situation before. I'm not one to move slow. I f-close on the third date. But your reply is spot on. I live by "no excuses."

    I wanna ask her out again but I don't wanna risk a second flake. I'm leaving for vacation on Wednesday, so if I ask her out tonight, it's very short notice and tomorrow would be the only day I could suggest.

    So I think I'm answering my own question that I'll have to see what happens when I get back (early January)

    BTW, I was NO DOUBT at least k-closing on the fourth date that she flaked on. Now it's a matter of me setting up the next opportunity (guarantee)

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    Two things about this thread. Meteora's walking idea is pure gold. The walk is so powerful, you can end up making out with a girl on the first date, even get a lay. I incorporated walking into my first dates months ago, and have had first day lays on my last 4 dates. Energy should be high, lots of smiling, lots of laughing, go for a walk and just hold out your hand look at her, she'll grab it.

    Secondly, if the girl is into you, it won't matter where you are for your first kiss. Sometimes the more public the better. A girl and I made out on our first date down town Raleigh while people walked and drove by cheering and hollering. Didn't detour her at all.

    She might like you at this stage bro, but your getting by on factors other than your game. There's something superficial she like about your, or something she seriously dislikes in her life. You need to pull back. Go on your next date, and have YOURSELF a blast. When you start having fun, she will too. Don't go for Kino. Hold out, you need to recover. Towards the end of the night, you can incorporate a little here and there, but leave her wondering at the end of the night.

    Next date, same thing. Have YOURSELF a blast, avoid kino for a little. Half way through, re-engage, and game on. This is going to let her establish some more attraction, and more importantly, it's going to let you feel a little more comfortable around her. After all, you would have already kissed her if you felt comfortable... wouldn't you?
    You don't need her

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    Thanks for the advice guys. I'll be using it soon. Some recent events in my life have messed up my confidence. Otherwise I can't explain my crappy game...

    Bball king, what do you mean by "superficial" and "something she dislikes in her life?"

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    So what I did was, and this is uncharacteristic of me, I just looked into her eyes and waited for the kiss to happen, me waiting and saying "I had a really good time tonight."

    It resulted in her saying "I don't kiss on the second/third date." Before saying goodbye, I reached out and stroked her face which made her smile.
    three things you should learn from this:

    1. NEVER kiss at the "end of the date" its almost always the worst time to kiss the girl during a date.

    2. the best time to kiss a girl is right after she has demonstrated some of her value to you.(basically anytime she does something unique that makes you more attracted to her) that way she can feel like she earned your attraction.

    3. when you take a girl on a walk, ALWAYS have a clear destination in mind. this is the only way you're going to lead her to go where YOU want to go. (had you had a clear destination in mind, you could have easily walked her to someplace secluded to make out with her)

    BTW, I was NO DOUBT at least k-closing on the fourth date that she flaked on. Now it's a matter of me setting up the next opportunity (guarantee)
    ah, but that is what she's expecting, and that is why she flaked and will flake again.

    you tried to kiss her before she felt like she's earned it, and now she knows you're going to force yourself upon her if she goes on another date with you. (just like every other schmuck that tried to kiss her without making her earn it)

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    Question Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    So you don't think it's even worth a shot Meteora? That would SUCK

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    So you don't think it's even worth a shot Meteora? That would SUCK
    tell me something, how many times is she going to flake on you before you get the picture??? how many "friend dates" are you going to go on before you realize she's sleeping with some douchebag??? you're not immortal bud.

    imo you've already given her enough chances, cut line and re-bait to catch better fish!

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    That's lame. I'm not some "nice guy." I just farked up, and very well could have been that douchebag. I guess it's like Doc Love says, "one chance per girl per lifetime." Oh well, at least I learned something. Not gonna lie though, the failure leaves a queasy feeling in my stomach.

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    Default Re: Rate the beta-ness of this text

    Quote Originally Posted by 21questions50 View Post
    That's lame. I'm not some "nice guy." I just farked up, and very well could have been that douchebag. I guess it's like Doc Love says, "one chance per girl per lifetime." Oh well, at least I learned something. Not gonna lie though, the failure leaves a queasy feeling in my stomach.
    It always does bro, it always does. Though if it didn't would you really care and ever learn? That feeling of failure is the only thing that keeps you coming back for more, kind of a double edged sword.

    Something superficial... she thinks your good looking, she likes your car, you have a good job, you have a promising financial future, anything that doesn't define who you are, but what you are. That or there is something missing in her life that you can offer her (other than sex by the sounds of it). She's bored, she doesn't have many friends, she doesn't like to sit at home; etc

    From the sound of it your game wasn't getting you by. Something else was. It doesn't seem to matter now. But watch for the signs in the future. She doesn't kiss on the third date... bull sh1t... she farks on the first date, she just needs someone to be attracted to enough to do it. If she truly didn't, she'd give you a dozen excuses why she doesn't, because she's afraid she'll lose you.

    The fact that you didn't kiss her soon enough shouldn't be what you take from this, it should be that you didn't get her attracted enough to want to kiss you.
    You don't need her


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