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    Default Re: Escalated too quickly?

    Your number 1 makes perfect sense, now that I think about it. Everyone of those girls were freshly out of a serious relationship, or in a pretty fragile state, and I think they were hiding behind texting, trying to control their frame. I suppose I should start targeting women who aren't god damn broken.

    I don't deal with women who are in relationships very often, so I have no real feed back on that subject.

    I'll try some of these techniques the next time I get a chance, I've tried calling at random times, but they just let it go to voicemail, and text me back, it drives me crazy since I've hated any kind of text based communication since ever. The silver lining is since I've found this forum my text game has dramatically improved.

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    Default Re: Escalated too quickly?

    This may not resonate with you since you are against online dating and all that jazz. I do dabble in online dating. Which is one reason why I am for texting. The girl and I have not met in person. I haven't established or expressed my personality with her. I am currently fortunate enough to have a job where I can text here and there. My job isn't too demanding, I can utilize my time to develop my text game.

    I saw your other thread that you are against online dating and that is fine. I hear your points loud and clear. Most of your points are solid. Texting CAN be time consuming. It is only valuable when you use texting to bring you and the girl closer. Not to talk about your life stories. I also dabble in real life pick up. I cast a wide net and if I can set up a session where it's going to lead to a date while sitting on my toilet, then I will do so but I will need texting for that. I will need to develop a texting art that will get them off the dating website/app, and into my arms in real life.

    Neither text nor phone is always more advantageous than the other. The key is to utilize whichever best fits the situation. Texting can be used to capitalize on the emotional momentum from the first meeting. If there was a memorable moment, an inside joke, just send a simple text, she will love it 9/10.

    Texting is low investment and represents a low social pressure which girls can be utilize if they aren't confident. By sending a first playful text, you can easily communicate a non-needy attitude and she will play along. You say you can't control the interaction but you can! You can take your time and calibrate your responses based on the positive/negative reaction that you get from your texts. What turns you off is the time consumption. But you're living your life and you're sending texts on your time. You are essentially controlling the interaction. She is waiting for you, she has the anxiety now, she is now the guy that waits by her phone all day to get that text from that one special guy. You see it all the time, girls glued to their screens, just anxiously waiting. Ping, their eyes lights up. That was probably me. You get to create the games. Your text game gets to a point where girls are chasing you. Once you understand text, you see patterns, you see when a girl starts playing games or when they are bullshitting or testing you. Girls say they want guys to call the time but they really want that special one guy to call her, they don't want all guys to call, they want you. That is where the phone call really shines.

    Texting isn't better than phone calls, but phone calls aren't better than texting. What if she is so busy that she can't really pick up the phone ? You may try and try again and eventually all she will see is your missed call. The way I play it is after I send a few texts and get her to invest enough and get her slowly comfortable with the idea of communicating with me, the phone call isn't as big of a deal.

    You do not have to worry about her mood when you text her. If she is not free, she will read it when she is. It takes far less investment on her part to return a text message than it does to answer the phone or return a call

    And most of these guys starting PUA....are not ready for that first phone call. Most of these girls, especially hot women will probably have already had awkward experiences on the phone from guys in the past who clumsily asked her out during their first call and are looking at that phone call like "ah shit, here we go" even though you're probably a cool motherfucker. Now, this will work in your favor if the girl is really into you but if it's day game and you know it wasn't a long pick up...unfortunately, women are not always helpful in the first few phone calls until they get to know you and become more invested in you. This puts the conversational burden on the shoulders of the man, which can create anxiety and nervousness. And in turn, this nervousness may lead us to make foolish mistakes and sub communicate negative things.

    What most guys on here fail to realize is shit, you can't keep cracking jokes all day, lead the interaction forward. Just don't stay in one phase forever. But Tyrone, you are far ahead of the pack, you have the principles down, you have the demeanor down, you can bypass, you can cheat and not use texting. I use it because I like to text sexual, flirty, and funny stuff throughout the day while living my life. I send it and forget it. I respond when I have the time. The girls understand I have a life. They understand I have ambitions, so they adapt to that. If the girl gets needy, I calmly call her and set her straight. If she persists, bye bye.

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    Default Re: Escalated too quickly?

    If you enjoy texting and is better suited to get your results or to do what you need to do, then by all means do it. Just know what you are doing so the time invested pays off. This is time to me. I could get hit by bus today, I just think we should value it to the extent that our lives are more important then girls being pursued because without life you can't pursue them anyway.

    If it works and you get maximum results with minimal effort, so that at least it pays of more then invested, then go for it. But remember all that time you are investing is a down payment for a future or result that isn't garranteed. If I can put a 5% down payment rather then 50% the bank balance isn't going to suffer dramatically.

    especially when women will decide in the first minute or two if she is attracted to me, I will invest the same as her. Personally that's how I think and I believe men should value there time and life more then women because without it you wouldn't be pursuing. If they did there would be no AFC's possibly
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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