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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike413 View Post
    Also, I don't need your dumb advice and I don't need to "alpha up." Worry about yourself.
    Men don't really "Do" support groups. That is more a woman thing, LOL. But PUA is one exception. I am not "getting off" critisizing you. It is meant to be constructive. We are all here after the same thing.

    Look, we ALL do stuff that is not in our best interest, and stuff that prevents us from getting to our goal. Being needy, not approaching, getting pissed, oneitis, etc. Not to put salt on the wound, but you are making another mistake now. Getting mad at me. What good will come of that? Read what I said, evaluate it, and move on. What I said either has value to you, or it does not. It is just like approaching a girl. You do it, you have success, or you fail. Let's say you fail. Do you dwell on it, throw a tantrum. No. You say, NEXT, and move on. That is ALPHA. If you don't like what I said, push it aside and move on. I am not going to worry that I have offended you. I got work to do.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Then don't treat it like a support group. I know I wasn't. But who says men don't do support groups? What a bunch of bs that is. You mean if you had a serious alcohol problem you wouldn't go to a twelve step program? Well, guess what? That's a support group. There's nothing wrong with admitting you need help with something. Only a beta male can't do that. It takes a lot of strength and humility to admit you need to improve in an area. You can't get better otherwise.

    Anyway, I do move on. I don't sit in the corner crying because some woman(in her mind anyway)rejected me or wasn't interested. I started this thread because it just seems crazy to me how women can ignore men or get angry over the dumbest things.

    I'm not offended. I just think you can get your point across without coming across as an ............(I'll let you use your imagination here and fill in the blank).

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike413 View Post
    I'm not offended. I just think you can get your point across without coming across as an ............(I'll let you use your imagination here and fill in the blank).
    Cool. I do various social media stuff. And you ALWAYS have to be so annoyingly PC. I have chosen to be pretty direct here on purpose. Not to be a dick, but because WE should all learn to take it, and because whatever I say, I am saying honestly, whether I am right or wrong. I mean, as we all start learning to become more Alpha, a little direct criticism should hardly be something that should get a rise out of us. About 2 months ago, it was a slow night at the skating rink. I noticed some low end women who weren't skating. So just out of boredom, and for practice, I approached them, asked them how they were doing and if then needed some help. The stonewalled the shit out of me, and were really snotty about it. That was my first, and still to date, hardest bitch slap. What I LOVED about it was i kept my cool. I told them that I saw they weren't skating, and thought I would offer some help. That kind of shut them down, then I smiled and wished them a pleasant night. I walked away feeling pretty good, instead of feeling hurt or crushed. Part of my brain was saying, f*ck, I really am starting to learn this Alpha shit. LOL. Anyway....

    Hey, on another subject, since we have a live conversation going, have you ever done some self hypnosis recordings. I had got one free online from some PUA guru, can't remember who other than it was a Chic. Maybe Kezia. Anyway, had been using them for a couple of months. Then I stopped, and I notice my game suffered. I started listening to them again, I make my own, listing out things I want to do or keep in mind, and my last few outings have gotten better, like they were before. Like Wednesday night, it was slim pickings at the rink. So I see these two cute girls come in. While they are finishing putting on their skates, I sit near by and sip some water. Then when they are getting on the floor, I notice one is having trouble. I am ON it. I end up helping her out the rest of the night. A cute 19 year old. And I was getting dirty looks from a bunch of the other guys that like to help and hang out with the ladies. And last night, I had just walked in when I saw a hot asian chick having trouble. I chatted with her as she hung on the rail. I had not even put my skates on. Once I got my skates on, I found her again, helped her, and just hung out with her for a while. She was with a guy, but it was just a friend thing. Hottest chick of the night, and I wan on her as soon as I walked in. One of the lines in my Hypno script is, Be quick to approach, don't hesitate. Another one I like is, "You are a rock star. Everyone likes you, and wants to talk to you." LOL, yeah, it seems cheesy. Another is, if you make a mistake, don't worry about it. You are lucky. Things will work out anyway. Then when a lack of confidence starts creeping up on you, and you have listened to you recording 50 times, these little lines pop into your head, and you push forward.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    It's cool. I think we are on the same page. I thought I saw in another thread that you are in your fifties. I myself am 46 so I guess both of us are above the average age on here(not that it really matters). Most guys over 30 wont' admit they need help in this department so right there we are above most of our peers.

    However, for personal reasons I won't get into at the moment(other than to say I am currently in between jobs)I have low self esteem and low confidence. I'm pretty good looking for the most part(or so I've been told) but we all know that alone won't get us very far. Lol.

    Tonight I went out by myself(which is usually my only option unfortunately)and it actually wasn't too bad. I went to a club that is actually inside a casino where of course I didn't know anyone but at some point spotted a guy who was wearing a rock t shirt of one of my very favorite bands. There was a country rock band playing which I wasn't really into that much but I'm a big music fan so it wasn't too bad. We struck up a conversation about our mutual band after the band played and we could hear eachother. It turns out he's two years older than me. I talked to a few other people through him and met his gf. So I made the attempt to be social which I probably wouldn't have done if it wasn't for his concert t shirt(I have a shirt of the same band so it will be interesting to see if anyone approaches me. Lol).

    There are three main female pua gurus that I know of anyway. They are Marni, Kezia and Deanna(who I know through youtube videos). Most of the others lack credibility imo.

    So back to the club. I was never there before and mainly went to check it out and see if it has potential. There weren't many people dancing(most women and mostly in groups). I did briefly talk to some women but because of my lack of confidence I didn't really continue the conversation I guess partly for fear of being blocked by her friends. It was still not to bad of an experience though. I talked to the woman who brought me my drink a little bit but that's pretty easy because they are paid to be friendly. She told me the dance floor is packed during the fall and winter and not so much during the summer(not sure the logic here is everyone in the swimming pool at 11:00 at night or something?)At some point I left because the band came back on and I just didn't want to sit there and I didn't want to be a third wheel with the other people I just met or come across as too needy(which always seems like a strong possibility for me when I go out by myself).

    I have done social media stuff but not so much anymore. I really don't like facebook and don't have much to say on twitter. I actually know a guy who met his current gf on twitter. Right now I'm mainly focusing on apps and believe it or not it could be worse. There's one woman who probably could f^^^ me but I'm not that into her(she's maybe a six at the best and even that might be pushing it). She's actually married but in an open relationship. So I'm mainly just working on myself right now(the chicks are sort of secondary). I am trying to get back into the working world, get in better shape, and just be over all more appealing to women.

    I haven't done much with self hypnosis. I have read a little bit about NLP though but don't know much about self hypnosis. Let me know if you remember the name of the self hypnosis program.

    There are no skating rinks near me(to be honest I didn't know they still existed)but there are a few clubs/dance clubs. The one bad thing about them is they are really loud so approaching can be difficult. That's why I'm studying how to pick up women on the dance floor. I haven't worked out yet how to pull a woman out of a club when she is there with her friends but I'm sure I'll figure it out.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Yeah, I am unemployed too. My solution is I open and do rapport only. I am essentially just meeting women, practicing my Kino and socializing just for the nice company of the most attractive women in the rink. I won't try and escalate unless it is really just a very ripe opportunity. (I have had a couple, early on. But I did not realize it. It was not until I was doing my post game recording that it hit me what had just come my way. Part of the learning process.)

    I always work alone myself. In fact, when I first got on here, the notion of Sarging with a partner struck me pretty weird. Still does. I suppose I will do it at some point, going to a bar or club. But for now, I pretty much fancy myself as a day gamer. Though skating is at night, it is really much more day game-ish in feel. Working a skating rink is also kind of unique as it is more like a party. It is a closed environment for a few hours. I do a lot of catch and release. I approach a cutie or several, and I often get mild friction. I do my thing, release them, go onto the next, release them, and then circle back around. The women seeing me make the rounds demonstrates some Alphaness and shows I am not needy. Usually when I come back around, and I try to be sure to touch one of them when I do, I get a much more warm welcome. Doing the catch and release also ups my value, and often get me pre-selected. A woman approaches me.

    It is kind of nice for me working the skating rink. I like it and would likely be doing it anyway, and it is a really cheap night. $10 to get in and NO other expenses. LOL, no drinks to buy. So for a poor guy like myself, it is pretty much ideal.

    You don't really need anything special to do a hypnosis recording. And while the recording I had got from someone else went through the process of trying what would actually happen during a normal hypnosis, I skipped all the relax, breath deep mumbo jumbo and I go directly to the things I want to do or not do. I just write a script, such as the stuff I mentioned before, and the I read it while recording it on the computer. I then use a program to change the voice, so it does not sound like me. For some reason, I don't like hearing my own voice on the recordings. Then I put it on my phone, and then I listen to it for 30 or 40 minutes, or put it on loop and have it play while I sleep.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    The one rule about texting is that if you keep on prolonging the useless talk just for the sake of texting then soon you will end up as just text buddy. You need to build up the sexual Tension, you need to keep her intrested. The best thing to do while texting is meet up soon and make out or at least make it sexting. And mate wtf, you sounded like some creep telling "I am not going to bug you into trying to talk to me on phone". Never do that again. And yes, never if a girl ignore you then don't just keep on begging her for the attention, just walk away. Be the prize ( beggar can't be choosy). Now just tell her that " I don't just let everyone be my buddy, All my buddy are very special and nice person".

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    And mate wtf, you sounded like some creep telling "I am not going to bug you into trying to talk to me on phone".


    Ok, what's really so horrible about saying this? Yeah, I get it that it's wrong but I'm not sure why it's so bad. I was trying to let her know that I wasn't going to go on about it. When I added "Yeah, maybe I will" I think that's when I lost her and not before. This woman obviously just had no sense of humor.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike413 View Post
    And mate wtf, you sounded like some creep telling "I am not going to bug you into trying to talk to me on phone".


    Ok, what's really so horrible about saying this? Yeah, I get it that it's wrong but I'm not sure why it's so bad. I was trying to let her know that I wasn't going to go on about it. When I added "Yeah, maybe I will" I think that's when I lost her and not before. This woman obviously just had no sense of humor.
    Well.... think of it this way. Would a really solid, good, successful PUA say that?? You are bringing up a subject that is either creepy or needy. You don't want to be TELLING a girl that you are not going to be creepy or needy. You simply need to demonstrate to her with you actions, talking, texting, that you are cool and confident. You don't even want to bring up a subject like this. Unless it is a joke. Cool, now I am going to bug you all week. Oh, wait.... hang on. No, I am bugging Sue this week, and Deborah next week. I harass you the week after.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    [Well.... think of it this way. Would a really solid, good, successful PUA say that?? ]

    I don't know. I haven't interviewed any.

    You want to assure women you aren't a creep. That's what I was trying to do.

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    Default Re: Got ignored after some success with texting

    Yup, you got it totally right; a successful pua would never do that.


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