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    Default Pandora's box makes me think about PU in general

    Hey, this started as a post in another thread but I thought it could start an interesting conversation. If it's in the wrong place please move it and slap the @*&% out of me, thanks.

    First, I have to say that I believe that the ultimate goal of most of these systems we all spend money on is to take something that our mechanical wheel spinning male minds don't intuitively understand (womens minds), and find a way to describe it that makes sense to us. We need someone to draw us a freaking diagram, figuratively speaking of course. IMHO this program (pandoras box) nails it in the 'draw me a GD diagram' aspect!

    It's based on three main 'conflicts' or choices that women need to make to combat social expectations and realities of life. In each case there are two possible ways she could choose to deal with the conflict. These translate to qualities of that particular woman which tend to determine what approach is likely to interest her and also those which are likely to scare her off. There's three conflicts, with two 'solutions' each which leaves you with eight combinations of these qualities and eight 'types' of women. These are types with names like, the playette, cinderella, the modern woman, the hopeful romantic to name a few.

    I THINK THIS IS GENIUS and here's why. If you think about most of PU material out there, it seems to focus on the ways that ALL women are SIMILAR, which is important. The problem with that, that many of us forget, is that women are PEOPLE! Just another way to say that they have differing values, goals, upbringings, tolerance for physicality, religion, among a bunch of other things. While the three 'conflict' model doesn't specifically address each of these, I think it would be much too complicated for us retards(i speak for myself) to understand. Each of these 'conflicts' encompasses MANY of the aforementioned specific qualities so once you nail down one, for example Idealist vs Realist, you open the door and answer a TON of questions about that SPECIFIC GIRL. It's an amazing combination of accuracy, simplicity and practicality all of which are absolutely required for a system to function inside the male mind without carrying around your PUA notes...because THAT's creepy LOL.

    Two other things that I love about it are these:
    1. It gets me out of the "rut" of actually believing that all women are the same, which is a relief for my own m0rale and a boost to motivation
    2. It explains a LOT. I mean, I once thought that ALL women wanted you to proceed slowly with physicality/Kino. THEN, I thought that ALL women wanted you to proceed quickly with physicality/kino. This model tells you that one size does not fit all and actually gives you a shot at figuring out which one she might be before you even get far enough to touch her at all, if you know what to look for.

    Hate to sound like I'm pimping this system for someone but I'm not, I bought it based on reviews here and Vin Dicarlo's presentation. I'm interested to hear from others who have it because I think this could 'change the game' and prove to be a model upon which other systems are modeled because of it's simplicity and actual usefulness. You just figure out which three 'types' the individual girl for example 'The playette' Tester/Denier/Idealist and you then rely mostly on what you know about what each aspect means plus then there are some interactions when they're combined a certain way. That's the really interesting stuff. You could study the 8 types for WEEKS and I think you'd be better off for it, but even if you don't you still learn a TON.

    What do you guys think about PU theory largely being about women's similarities as opposed to their differences? For the same reason businesses focus on a 'niche' market, PU, and dating could possibly be exponentially more effective when systematically tailored to an individual woman.

    Sorry for rambling, no, wait, I'm not sorry, women don't like men who apologize, I forgot. Pi$$ off, you're the one who read the whole thing.

    Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Pandora's box makes me think about PU in general

    semi drunk posting= truth

    most of the fucking systems out are nothiing but extreme marketing tactics and shitty mateiral. Think about things twice befire you invest in them. besides many are just a regurtgitation of others.

    that being said: just be fucking alpha. that will get you girls. also be thick skinned and have a lot of confidence.

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    Default Re: Pandora's box makes me think about PU in general

    This is true but there are some really good programs that do help. Trust me I have seen almost every program advertised on this site, some are great, so are ok, and every now and then one is trash. But the point being is theses systems are basically teaching you how to market yourself to your target. PU is sales at its truest from. You are selling yourself. You have to know how to do it. So if a system helps get you a base to build off then its done its job.

    Just my opinion.

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    Default Re: Pandora's box makes me think about PU in general

    Quote Originally Posted by prjav View Post
    that being said: just be farking alpha. that will get you girls. also be thick skinned and have a lot of confidence.
    This sums up PUA. Just be alpha, and confident. It's easy to fake confidence, I learned in about the 7th grade. act liek you don't care, and if all else fail, sucker punch a chump in the eye/nose and kick him some. respect.

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    Default Re: Pandora's box makes me think about PU in general

    Quote Originally Posted by Miko View Post

    I THINK THIS IS GENIUS and here's why. If you think about most of PU material out there, it seems to focus on the ways that ALL women are SIMILAR, which is important.
    i think its bullshit. Its just going to turn you into a fucking robot. i dont think you want to turn into a robot. I payed my hard earn cash for that program and at first i was like Weeeee until i saw what it intended. I saw the intentions and it scared me. I dont want to be a fucking mystery that analizes every single actions and its just a social robot processing information.




    Hate to sound like I'm pimping this system for someone but I'm not, I bought it based on reviews here and Vin Dicarlo's presentation.

    Thoughts?
    nope you bought based on his marketing tactics just like i did. yada yada its the greatest thing since slice bread. also all the reviews by the "gurus" are skewed as they get a percentage of every copy sold. they are obviously going to hype the shit out of products to get their share.

    From now on i will only recommend 2 or 3 products if any.

    1.The Vibe is complete, has all the basics plus has its own things in it, its cheap and it helps the hosting costs of this tool(the forums) i got to help others and get help myself.

    2. i loved Stealth Attraction. get it for 1$ in the best deal ever tab, the rest if filler or meh so ditch the rest.

    3. the game by style as an entertainment read.


    some may ask: why im this bitter with the PU industry(industry= the ones selling shit =/= comunity guys trying to help for free like in the forums here). Once you start digging shit up you, the closets are full of skeletons. Many are milking the comunity and when you see the other side and the reality, the criticism, the truth with proof; thats when you really grow and your mind opens up.

    DONT WORK TO BECOME A SOCIAL RETARD, WORK TO BECOME A NATURAL HUMAN BEING. JUST BETTER YOURSELVES.

    IM OUT. SEE YA.


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