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    Exclamation Noob to this.. help me please

    Hi PUA, Well I need help of course.



    Some Back ground
    I am totally new to the texting game or even to get with a girl that I like. So a little background, I am Senior in High school who recently overcome shyness and no longer self conscious of myself.


    So back in middle when I was in eighth grade, I use to hang out and played tether-ball during lunch with this girl who was in 6th and after I left middle school I never talk to her ever since.

    Fast Forward...

    Until recently the pass week or so I reconnected to her again at school.We are 2 yrs a part. She's a Sophomore now. The girl is really really popular an A lot of guys are trying to get at her. I talk to her very seldom. When I see her its just a hug and "Hi". So, I got her # today and ask her when she is willing to have lunch since my school has off campus Lunch. So we decided to go next week but, I gotta confirm so.. she won't be flakey on me.



    how do I make sure she has some interest in me so she won't be flakey on the lunch date?
    So,where do I begin?
    I am sure not sure how to text her and how to myself stand out compare to every other guy that is trying to get at her. Also,when do I first text her? I need the baby steps..please



    Any comments of suggestion?

    Thank You
    Last edited by elloSwag; 11-18-2010 at 12:25 AM.

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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    oh gosh. we got fresh meat. lol hows it going noobie! just playing

    ok well hi im crob one of the most regulars on this site and i love text game. if you have time check out my text game field reports on some great stuff but first off lets give you a break down of the simple thing about texting! im just going to copy paste this thing i made and i also incooperated some of race de preists techniques from his program b4utxther. great product. pretty much the bible of text game!

    PS THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A BOOK. I HOPE YOUR READY!


    Ok so time for something personally that I love but lots of guys find trouble with and find very hard. TEXT GAME!!! Yes I said it, text game. Lots of guys have lots of different techniques and ill show you some that I personally love but if there is anything you learn about text game its about being fun, playful and different. If you haven’t noticed lots of AFC’s sending the usual text that says “hey whats up” or certain things like that. And if you have ever sent this to a girl then you have probably got the usual response “not much” or “nothing”. So the biggest thing you can do or take away from this post is the fact to just break them out of autopilot and engage their emotions whether it be laughter or something else.


    Ok so lets first start with how to text a girl whos number you just got and sometimes when to text. One of the biggest questions I get all the time is when should I text a girl. I mean lots of guys get into their own head and sometimes forget when or what to text. It actually doesn’t matter when you text a girl as long as you come with the right attitude. But a usual rule of thumb to deal with any girl is give it a day or two. Because texting a little after sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. So ill usually play it safe. Ok now lets see what we are to text a girl when we first message her.


    Ok so now when you first text a girl you want to text them something playful and fun like I said earlier but also certain things need to be within this first text to make it very effective!

    These things are:
    1. It needs to engage her emotions, causing her to re-affirm her attraction to you
    2. It needs to set a fun, playful tone for the interaction to come
    3. It needs to compel her to respond

    So lets take a look at an example.
    “Hey there Petro pants! What kind of trouble are you causing today?!?
    Or
    “Hola Chicka! Yes I am starting to learn some Spanish slowly! I just realized what celebrity you remind me of…you would never guess it!
    Both these text have the components of an effective first text because there fun and playful, i have recalled rapport topics, and compelled her to respond!

    Now some of the next techniques ill use exactly from race de preists own B4utxther because they are so creative and you will love them

    Making Up Memories – The Amazing Benefits of Role-Playing

    Remember when you used to play “house” with a girl you like in elementary school? You were the husband and girl you had a crush on was the wife. Or perhaps it was doctor and patient or Kind and Queen of the castle (a.k.a. the slide). Although it may have just seemed like a fun game at the time, there was some very powerful psychological principles of attraction going on there. The best part is those principles are far more effective now that you are older. In fact, the affects of successfully role-playing with a woman you are interested in are so astounding you will wonder why you haven’t been doing it all along.

    The human brain has trouble distinguishing between imagined events and real memories. This is significant because every time you create an imagined event with a woman using role-playing, she is in essence creating a memory with you. The more memories you have with someone the more comfortable you feel around them. After all, are not all the relationships you have in your life formed from the feelings and bonds created through shared memories together?

    When role-playing with a woman the devil is in the details. The more vivid she can imagine herself experiencing the events you describe the more powerful and “real” the memory will become. You want to pick roles where you do things together or where she is the one who is looking up to or chasing you.

    Here are a few examples of role-playing ideas:
    -Husband and Wife (or ex’s)
    -Travel Buddies (talk about all the adventures you are going on together)
    -Stalker and Victim (she is the one stalking you)
    -Teacher and Student
    -Rockstar and Groupie
    In Action:
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:17:14 PM
    Race: Did I just catch you spying on me as I was changing into my gym clothes my little stalker?!
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:17:59 PM
    Selma: Yes im watchin u
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:19:46 PM
    Selma: Nice ass….
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:20:45 PM
    Race: Hey thanks I’ll let you grab it next time we are making out
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:23:24 PM
    Selma: K im soo goin to grab it now

    As you engage her with different role-playing scenarios you are also displaying an adventurous, exciting, or even possibly a slightly romantic side of your self. These can be short little interactions or, to get the most out of them, they can become a long running theme between you two. This way when you meet up again you already have a story line between you two that you can draw from at any time. I cannot stress enough how much comfort this creates!

    Me4/12/08 5:22 PM
    Race: Hey wanna come over here and grab some lunch wifey?
    Alicia ms law student?4/12/08 5:24 PM
    Alicia: i would love to but im working the bon jovi concert tonight through an agency and i have to leave at 4! :0( thank you so much tho! xo
    Me4/12/08 5:25 PM
    Race: Well us not seeing each other very often is putting a definite strain on our marriage:-(
    Alicia ms law student?4/12/08 5:28 PM
    Alicia: i know! i cry myself to sleep at night…. 6 more days til we go on our double honeymoon!

    Equally as significant, role playing allows her to let go of some of her insecurities and open up more than usual. Because she is ‘playing a role’ of somebody else she can use that as plausible deniability. After all it really ‘isn’t her’. When in all actuality, the things she jokes about (for the most part) are actually an outlet for how she really feels. And again, because it is a role and “not her”, she isn’t worried about being judged. She can pass that off to the character she is playing into.

    Playfully Tease Her

    Another good technique is to tease her playfully every once in a while. Keep it light and silly. This helps lower her defenses by showing you don’t place her up on a pedestal but see her on the same level. A typical guy who was interested in her would never do this. It also makes her have to explain her self to you, confirming in her mind that you are someone she finds valuable. Be very careful with these when you are just starting off, as it is easy to go overboard and say something mean. Never directly insult a girl. They are used to that from all those other guys who get their feelings hurt when she tests them or when she doesn’t talk to them. You are not one of those guys. This is to be fun and playful…it is flirting not hurting.

    Examples:
    “You’re a closet dork aren’t you?..except without the closet ~”
    “Come on now… you have work today huh…? Sure it isn’t mandatory community service!? A cute, yet sassy gal who’s a felon… who woulda knew!? Hahah ”
    “Awww you’re kinda cute…for a girl ”
    If she ever has problems with her car, phone, or any thing she pays monthly for you can say:
    “Its cool if you couldn’t afford to pay your bill-I’m not judging you… that much… hahaha j/k “
    If she ever suggests a time to meet up (eg 6pm):
    “no that’s too early…dont wanna be stuck with ya that long! Let’s do 6:03 haha ”
    If she ever gives you a compliment:
    “That is the nicest thing anyone has ever told me … Since I woke up:-)”
    In Action:
    Katelyn Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:21:35 PM
    Katelyn: Ohhhhh that’s right you’re that cool. Forgot for a moment who I was talking too. Haha. Glad I’m one of 6000+ girls you talk to but really none will compare.
    Kelly Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:23:33 PM
    Kelly: Hahaha u seem pretty cool . Still got my eye on you though. So no funny business
    Katelyn Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:28:49 PM
    Katelyn: I’m the coolest may even top you sir. Yeah you shld keep an eye on me most guys tend to. Good thinking. Haha
    Kelly Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 3:58:15 PM
    Kelly: You’re funny. Did u have like a big stain on your shirt or something?! Hahaha U r kinda adorable..

    After she responds, no matter how she reacts, stay in a lighthearted manner. Be sensitive to whether you are offending her or not. Sometimes you can unintentionally strike a nerve and hurt her feelings. If this happens, don’t be overly apologetic. Casually apologize, say you were joking, and redirect the frame of the conversation by talking about something less serious.

    Check Yes or No
    I still remember when a girlfriend of mine invited me to watch movies at her house in cutest way. Just like the notes I would get in gradeschool from a girl who was into me, she asked me to check yes or no.
    “Would you like to come over tomorrow & watch movies with me? Check [ ]yes or [ ]no”
    A funny way of altering it is to take away the no so her only options are to hang out with you.
    “Would you like to come over tomorrow & watch movies with me? Check [ ]yes or [ ]heck yes!
    This is a great way to invite a girl who you have already gone out with on several occasions and had a great time.
    The Odd Time Technique
    A funny little to do when inviting a girl out is use an unusual time. Most people think in 15 min increments. Instead when you are giving her a time to meet make it an odd time like 7:03 or 9:47. This is another way to make her laugh and set you apart.

    Example #1
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:37:48 AM
    Race: I am thinking 9:03 tonight
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:39:02 AM
    Lola: Why not 902? Where?
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:40:12 AM
    Race: That would be waaaay too early! I don’t want you to be waiting around all night! At exchange bar
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:45:52 AM
    Lola: To think one min earlier what was i thinking. So whos going?
    Example #2
    8/14/08 9:57 PM
    Lisa: Will do! Think u can give me an approx. time? It will help me plan my escape….
    Me8/14/08 11:36 PM
    Race: 9:07
    8/14/08 11:49 PM
    Lisa: Hmmm….9:07 doesn’t work 4 me. How about 9:10? :-p
    Me8/14/08 11:56 PM
    Race: That’s waaaay to late…the party will b over by then
    8/15/08 12:02 AM
    Lisa: Wow…the elusive 3 min. party. Fine….I can meet u @ 9:08 & 22 sec. but not a moment sooner.

    ok so here is a quick taste of some great text game techniques and at the back of all of these is that thought of being playful and different. so when u text this girl you want her to think and hope its you that texting her. trust me, this shit works wonders on underage girls. i hit on a few 18 year olds and use some of the very same techniques and they eat it up as much as they ate up me! . ok so when you do start texting her make sure u give her a rapport nickname. since u guys used to play tether ball. use that. she will laugh and think about the old times. so having something like teether pants or something will help until you guys get one that u make together.

    ok so when you first text her you need to cover some ground and become a sexual entity in her eyes. and the roleplaying is great for this. maybe start with something fun and different.

    "Hey teether pants! ok well ill be the first to say it. if we are going to start this text marriage we need to start off on the right foot. no more stalking. its a little creepy sometimes having you follow me everywhere! Deal? lol " so it teases, shows ur confident, is fun and different, and kind of sets up for a bunch of different things.

    and since u seem totally blind to text game ill give you some other things. when you start texting her regularly, dont say hey whats up. every guy does that. use something differnt. maybe something like

    " Hey sassy pants! i have an evil plan to get rich. But i need a partner in my crime are you in?"
    then
    " Ok well we are going to rob a bank and i need your help. you a shooter or driver" then use that to tease a little.

    another good example.
    "Hey wifey pants, what kind of trouble are you up to today. Hopefully not too much, i keep my pimp hand strong/ im not afraid to spank a girl in public!" either option is fun.

    and another good one for you might be
    "Hey there pinky! Whats ur evil plan today?!? and yes your pinky, im obviously brain in this! lol "

    all of these make for a fun conversation with this girl and she will more than likely fall for you really hard and have fun talking to you. trust me this is going to be really fun. after making this change in ur text game your going to need to make the same change to the way u act in person. lets say u do this over text but are boring in person. she will wonder why your being incongruent. so tomorrow start trying to be random and funny trying new things so when you do start talking to her and hanging out in person you will be fun both in text and in person.

    and also ill be the first to say it.

    WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY. HOPE YOU HAVE ONE HELL OF A RIDE.
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    elloSwag Guest

    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    thanks crob.

    can you help me with these ?'s
    how do I make sure she has some interest in me so she won't be flakey on the lunch date?
    I am sure not sure how to text her and how to make myself stand out compare to every other guy that is trying to get at her. Also,when do I first text her?

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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    i thought i already answered those except the first one. the first one, to stop from flaking you have to build attraction, curiosity and some comfort. so you basically want her to wonder about you and how you have changed, you want her to see you as potential bf material aka sexual entity so u dont hit the friend zone like a ton of bricks and then you want to just keep having fun with her.

    by following the things in my post YOU WILL STAND OUT. every other guy is thinking of saying things your thinking of right now. "hey whats up" "hows ur day cutie" "hola cutie want to chill". yes she sees those all the time and throws each of those guys into a category. this category is "TYPICAL GUY". a guy who isnt different and basically acts like every other guy. the way you stand out is break away from that. be fun, random, spontaneous, funny, fun thru text and in person, easy to talk to and every other characteristic a girl would throw out to make you sound special. each one of these traits will make you stand out from the rest. just be different. you may think just being alpha or being an asshole is going to get you chicks. yeah sometimes that works but it also ruins your chances in the future with her and most of all her hot friends. so what you want to do is take the good thinga assholes have and merge it with the good things the "prince charming" she has dreamt about has.

    ok so basically you need to first change ur inner game, aka your outlook on life and how you act. thats a first. you need to change that and make yourself more fun to be around and something girls want to be with. from your posts already i can tell you a straight forward guy that probably has been shy for a long time. the guy that would rather seem indifferent than be someone different to stick to the status quo. you dont want that. so u should in ur best interest at least change to be yourself and someone girls will like. next you just need to know the game. shit i could make like a 30 page paper on the game and everything you need to do. rather you need to experience it. this "girl" of yours will basically be some experience. yes it might work out and i hope it does. but if not you will learn and grow from the things you see so keep your eyes open.

    but for the rest of your questions. they are in the book above. how to text and be different and certain techniques laid out to help you understand how to be different and what you should do! also, give it a day or two until you text her some of these things to start her in on curiosity about you.

    good luck with this girl.

    ps dont put her on a pedestal. worst thing you could do. hang out with her, meet up for a night date, have fun and kiss her at the end!
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    elloSwag Guest

    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    so Crob, i just texted her and took your advice and said" Hey Teether pants"

    and she replied back with a question mark. She doesn't have my number.. well now she does but don't know who it is..
    next step..?

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    ok well answering the who is this text is probably one of the funnest parts when you first start texting. here is a section from b4utxther that describes how to do it very well. trust me if you want to know how to text like a pro race de preists program is amazing.


    ANSWERING THE “WHO IS THIS?” TEXT
    If it hasn’t yet, eventually you will send a text to a girl only to get back these three little words: “who is this?” There can be many reasons this happens. Maybe she lost her phone or it broke and she had to get a new one. Maybe she didn’t save your # or it has been so long since you last text her she deleted it. Whatever reason it happened, how you respond is going to determine if she is going to incorporate you back into her texting life or leave your # as unsaved. You don’t want to get the “Who is this?” response every time you text her do you?
    So how do you respond? Most guys typical response is to try to remind her of how she knows him, “Hey this is so and so we met at such and such a place.” Now maybe she will remember you and maybe she won’t. Either way, trying to convince someone of how they know you always put’s you in the position of chasing them. You remember them but you have to remind them of why they know you. Ouch.
    The solution is to make her ACTUALLY want to know who you are. Don’t just explain who you are and how she knows you right away. By replying in a fun way that doesn’t try to explain who you are, you spike her curiosity and make her chase you. By the time she figures out who you are she has already associated fun, positive emotions with you ensuring she will be saving your phone # and be more than willing to engage in future text interactions. Here are a few example of fun ways to respond:
    “Oh my dear {nickname}…I thought my # was inscribed upon your heart???”
    “Your Prince Charming…duh!”
    “You didn’t save my #?!!! I’m so hurt…sniff sniff..lol”
    “{your name}. the ridiculously unattractive guy who was boring…haha ”
    “Your future ex husband of course ”
    In Action:
    Amber ms hott?3/6/08 1:02 AM
    Amber: Thts sweet but who is this ; )
    Me3/6/08 1:03 AM
    Race: Prince Charming…duh!
    Amber ms hott?3/6/08 1:04 AM
    Amber: Thn why r u not with me
    Me3/6/08 1:31 AM
    Race: because ur evil step mother had me locked up in the castle! but I broke free and now we can live happily ever after…how excited are you!
    Note: You can minimize this from happening by exchanging numbers instead of just getting hers as often as possible.
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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    thanks crobs. that exactly what I did.

    here is my progress..

    Me: Hey Teether Pants!
    She: ?
    Me: It is (my name) ... Just wanting to check you gave me the right #. Lol
    She: Oh haha. Hey.
    Me: Hey, you just popped in my head and i wanted to say hi
    She: Helloooooo
    Me:What's sup?
    She: Nm wbu?
    Me: Mhm applying for classes online.. How was your day?
    Now waiting for the reply


    so...How am I doing? I think.. i mess up up in the intros... But I am NOOBIE what do i know. HAHA. When she replies back to me it takes awhile so... I am confused on the waiting game or how long i should wait to reply back again or what to do.
    Last edited by elloSwag; 11-18-2010 at 10:13 PM.

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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    BORING. you are going the safe route and sticking to standard conversation that every other guy says.

    Me: Hey, you just popped in my head and i wanted to say hi
    This should say: Hey you just popped in my head so hi. now get out of there!

    then when she answers say you dont trust her in there or something... you are being too soft.

    after she said hello say "what kind of trouble are you causing" not "whats up"

    crob just spent a lot of time copying all his material into this page for you. take advantage of it.

    My general rule of thumb (up to a certain point in the relationship) is if she has heard it before YOU DONT SENT IT. think of a fun new creative way to say the normal questions like the example above instead of whats up. Come up with interesting random ass things that you guys are going to do together. Its roleplaying and its EFFECTIVE. Just the other day it was raining and i said to a girl "wanna go jump in puddles with me?" and she loved it. Starting to get the idea? I took what was going on and thought of a creative thing to say about it. Were we actually going to go jump in puddles? In this case, no the girl i was talking to is in another country but now i just created this experience in her head of something we did together whether it was real or not.

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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    You are right In the making. I knew i did something wrong! so now what do I do?
    Last edited by elloSwag; 11-18-2010 at 11:33 PM.

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    Default Re: Noob to this.. help me please

    just as you keep going think of fun ideas and things to say. and inthemaking. that was perfect. haha "do you want to go jump in puddles with me" thats brilliant.

    ok so elloswag you want to make each conversation different and interesting. to start off maybe actually read what i put above. you will get tons of examples. shit use them exactly and ur going to have fun conversations. if she is ever being feisty or sassy use the bank robbery. i mean there is one about the "u popped into my head" thing. i would say "hey there teether pants. ok i have a question. how did u do it?" then she wont know and ask what and just say "ok you popped in my head. you had to have hijacked my brain somehow. who gave you permission to just hijack my brain? lol "

    i mean just anything fun, playful and different. i began to think you didnt even read what i put. that stuff above is gold. i mean you did what i specifically said not to. dont put "whats up" you got the same boring message. Not much what about you. you didnt engage her emotions and this convo mine as well not have happened cause there was no farking use. you didnt gain anything from this. if you keep up convos like this your going to go no-where with this girl. so from now on actually read what the fark i write so i dont waste my damn time. i was trying to help you and u didnt even have the respect to read it and use the info i gave to you.

    oh and we arent going to give you a damn play by play of what to say and do. this is called game. everyone is playing a different one. we are going to give you these you can use sometimes but you have to merge those things with who you are. so yes its ok to ask for advice but dont just say "hey what do i do now" i actually had a guy, i had an entire text convo for him and got him the date and everything. she was even getting hot and bothered while basically talking to me. but when they did see each other, she knew he was different and lost attraction. you have to be congruent with what you say thats why we can take ur hand like a child and guide you.

    FEED A MAN A FISH AND FEED HIM ONCE. TEACH HIM TO FISH AND FEED HIM FOREVER. same thing here, help you once or teach you and help you forever? which do u want?
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