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  1. #1
    knight_gt Guest

    Default Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    I just picked up HB8.5 last weekend in a mall. I usually do day-time pick ups. I used direct approach and number closed her. This all happened on Saturday morning. Before leaving, I told her that I will be calling her. She told me during pick up convo that she just graduated from a college and moved here a few days back. Anyways, I called her up the same evening. I put a time constraint like I gotta go in a minute and wanted to check wat she is upto ? I kept the convo cocky and funny. It lasted for three to five minutes and then I ended it up since I was busy and supposed to meet some friends on Saturday night. On Sunday afternoon, I texted her with flirty and funny texts. She responded instantly after my texts and I always waited for 10-15 min before sending my replies. We exchanged four texts. She told me abt wat she is doing and she replied in one of her texts that " hahaha u r full of jokes". I called her on sunday evening but she didnt pick up my phone. So i left a voice message and after 30 mins I texted her in which I wished her luck for first day at work and also flirted that she should make enough money to support both of us. But she didn't reply my call or this text. Usually she responds instantly. On Monday afternoon, I again texted her in a funny way. She replied instantly like I m fun and also she told me blah blah abt her work and that she has assignments to work on. I passed funny remark on her compnay and then told her to finish the work and call me sometime in last text. She didnt reply to my last text. This all took exchange of three texts from each of us.
    She didnt call me back the monday evening. I thought she might since how much time assignments can take? Anyways I analysed my game and decided to Freeze-Out for a couple of day. Tuesday and Wednesday (today) have been totally Frozen out by me. But no text/call from her as yet. I was thinking that she might be very concerned about her new job and work as compared to seeing a guy in a new place .
    I need your help and suggestion on my strategy. I want to setup my first date with her and F-close her or at least Kiss-close her. Should I continue the freeze-out ? Should I re-engage her and ask her a good time to call and then setup a date? I was thinking that I have been cocky/funny with her so I should tone down and builds more comfort.

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    you need to freeze her out for like a week, you called and texted way too frequently and came off as needy. now you wanna show her that your a busy person with things to do and make her wonder why your not callin/texting her anymore. when you ask her when a good time to call, makes her have the lead and turns the game into hers. wait a week call her on like saturday night tell her bout something you and your friends are doing and that she should come with

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    Hey, Thanks for the great reply. I understand what you are saying here. But she just moved to the city a few days back and its her very first job after college so I dont think she would be knowing places around the city. Secondly, I want to have one-one meeting with her to escalate and build emotional connection. What do you suggest in that case ?

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    You said it.

    She just moved where you are and must be adjusting to her street let alone her new job. I'd say freeze her out till the weekend (maybe Saturday night, so she's also been able to catch up on sleep, chores, whatever) and if her responses are lukewarm at best....

    lose her number and move on.

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    Hey culturedpearls, I was exactly thinking of Freezing Her Out till the weekend and then re-engaging her on Friday/Saturday Evening. Thanks for the reply. Now I want a suggestion of yours on re-engaging. Should I text her and show her my IOD (disinterest) for not calling me back like "okay, you are losing me now". OR should I just start with Push-Pull texts and call her to setup date like "We need to hang out some time otherwise I d start cheating on you". Which approach should I choose for re-engaging? I would appreciate if you can share some good ideas here.

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    open with something fun, they both seemed to be slightly needy. you could change the second one to be like "hey party pooper, i think im gonna have to divorce ya." idk go with something really playful and engaging. there are tons of openers on here tho so it shouldnt be too hard to find one

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    hey jbardu87 ! I m thinking of sending her "I heard on the news that aliens are taking all the sexy people for breeding...do not to worry ...you are safe!...i'm just texting to say goodbye"...found it on this forum somewhere. If she responds I will call her instantly and I m planning to dhv at start followed by Push Pull and then cold reads and building rapport convo on phone. Finally, I ll ask her out. Wat do u think of this game plan? Am i missing something?

    "hey party pooper, i think im gonna have to divorce ya." This text is awesome but it might convey her the message as if I was waiting for her call. She didnt call/text me and now I am responding to her action. Shouldn't I show her that I dont care abt her actions ? Just a thinking but you can throw some light here !

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    im not really good on phones so i tend to keep to texting (which im just learning myself) but i feel i can be much more cocky and funny through there because there is less pressure to respond quickly.

    i like but dont really like that opener, i think its funny but to some girls (maybe girls that arent worth our time) i think it gives off wierd vibes. i feel lke you really need to have solid rapport with the girl first to use that line. i could be wrong because im sure people have used it with success!

    i think shes gonna shut you out on the date tho, and if she does move on. my reason behind this is if you move that quick your still seeming needy to her. you wanna seem busy and socially active, especially to a girl thats new in the area! i would keep the texting going for a little bit. build the rapport and then leave the convo and re freeze her for a day or two. you can ask her the three questions, basically you want her to get somewhat attached and hooked to you. then after you freeze her a couple times and re-initiate the convo a couple times you should call her and ask her out for like coffee or something.

    you could open with, "hey (omg), did you hear?!" and shed be like "no, what?" then you could use that line if you want.

    to a certain point your correct, you do want to not care about her actions, but you kinda wanna voice them in a fun way. jokingly to say. i think what most people do is something along the lines of thats strike 1 now you owe me! idk maybe crobinson or raven could add on to this!

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    I understand what you are saying here and it makes perfect sense since I did act like a wuss. You mentioned about building solid rapport. I have seen stuff about it and tested it in the field however I m confused that how can i build rapport in text/convo ? Can you me some specific examples/convos or point to the material which shows how to build rapport over the text. How can I get her hooked via texting ? Some examples/threads will be great.
    You also talked about three questions. What is that? I may be knowing it by other name as I have heard of six questions.
    About ur last point, I totally agree with you. May be you can suggest some other text for re-initiating after the Freeze. I m planning to do so on Sunday afternoon ! I shall keep you posted.

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    Default Re: Freeze out and Day2 Issue - Urgent Suggestion

    i just did a lenghty one yesterday, and if you search crobinson or raven they both have excellent threads on texting to. you basically wanna be fun and playful, flirty but aslo get to know the girl at the same time. like you say something silly but introduce something to talk about at the same time, hold on ill give you an example of one of mine...
    me:
    did i tell you i singed up for the navy?
    her:
    nooo
    me:
    why the sad face?
    her::
    well whats going on with it
    me:
    i have no idea yet, im kinda scared tho
    her:
    aw booboo why would u do it then, dont be scared
    me:
    booboo huh? idk seems like a very logical choice. plus you know id look damn sexy in navy blue
    her:
    hell yes u def would!
    me:
    mmm ur making me blush wifey! tell me three things about you with out htinking. first things that come to mind
    her:
    you(because im talking to you), my kid, and shopping
    her:
    its not something about me but its whats on my crazy mind lolol
    her:
    your turn
    me:
    hmm boring
    me:
    i love anything with adrenaline, trying to make something of my self, and you(because im talking to you)
    me:
    how olds your lil man?
    her:
    he is 4. didint i tell you once before i had a kid?
    me:
    nah, u left that out. i think you thought it would scare me away...
    her:
    well it usually does scare people....
    me:
    i think its kinda cool, along as u dont beat me like the chic from teen mom
    her:
    no way. never that.
    me:
    damn, i love an abusive girl!
    her:
    ok rough in the bed(not abusive liek beating u up) lmao
    me:
    naughty pants, i guess now i really cant divorce you!
    her:
    wink wink. im a lady in the street but a freak in the sheets
    me:
    oh boy, so i couldnt even take you home to ma huh?
    her:
    im great with parents...
    me:
    now your just building your self up...but i mean who wouldnt wanna spend a weekend upstate?
    her:
    im not going to use u for a weekend upstate. thats messed up!
    me:
    who said anything bout using me?
    me:
    someones mind is in a bad place
    her:
    u made it seem like that by the way u said that. like u were bribing me mr. bardu
    me:
    oh really?
    me:
    i dont usually like to bribe girls, actually wait im luring girls to my house with candy tomarrow night, which do you prefer m&ms or skittles?
    her:
    m&ms lmao!
    me:
    peanuts or regular, wanna make sure lmao
    her:
    peaNUTS
    me:
    peaNUTS huh?
    her:
    ahhahah oops did i do that. I hit the caps by accident
    me:
    sure, im just gonna call u naughty pants from now on
    her:
    lol
    her:
    brb hun gotta take a shower!
    me:
    gettin all wet for me
    her:
    hmmmm maybe (smiley face)
    me:
    hmm kinda sexy, but i mean mother teresa naked....

    you pretty much are keeping it playful but i also built up her attraction for me and made it seem that she can talk to me and have fun with me! thats the key part is making her see your frame of life as fun and something she wants to be part of.

    the three questions is just something like, real quick list the first three things that pop in your mind, or the first three things that your all about, with out thinking. just trying to get her to spill some info about her self. when she does that neg her a lil on something and go into a convo about that then change the conversation back to something fun. bring up past convos or past dialog even if its from the same text.

    for after the freeze id go for something simple yet funny. because at this point since you built up the rapport and have her thinking about you, shes wondering why you havent talked to her yet. why you arent doing what every other guy normally does! she should be thinkin at this point "what did i do wrong? why doesnt he wanna talk to me" so you wanna bring something cocky, funny in like. "shh stop talking about me my ears are buzzing!" or maybe if in the first texts you come up with a nick name for her, call her by it and be like "naughtypants, are you misbehaving again?!" and hopefully from there you can role play or bridge it into something current.

    but what i would do is check out crobinson1 and ravens posts they are the people that have taught me almost all of my game just by listening to what they say and reading their posts. now you may strike out on this one, but practice makes perfect, so if that happens just move on!


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