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    Question 1 step forward 2 steps back

    i got this girls number and we were texting for a while then the subject of erotic photos arose. so we traded pics, later she tells me that she shuldnt have sent me the pics cuzz she has a bf, whom she loves, she keeps giving me mixed signals, and i dont know what to do with her

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    what are the mixed signals?

    Ignore what she says about her boyfriend. Change the subject or ignore any mention of him, as if the statements were never made. Try to meet up with her.

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    first we would have a normal convo, after a little while it would start getting dirty she would say stuff like "lol i cant do that cuzz ur not my boyfriend" or "well i would but ur not my bf" after she said that 5 minutes later she would be asking me if i would fuck her in certain positions, or how i would fuck her as if she forgot about her boyfriend
    Last edited by skooltimehero; 02-21-2011 at 09:40 AM. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    That's the ASD talking. Anti-Slut Defense. She really really wants to fuck you but society tells her that being slutty undercuts her social value so she will make up excuses to justify not doing it (even after sex), so it's your job as the Alpha male to simply ignore and conquer that ass.

    Really it two steps forward and one step back. Keep it up and you'll be at the "finish" line soon

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    The first time she brings up her boyfriend, or mentions that she's crossing the line, you say "forget about your boyfriend." Immediately followed by a resolute, hypnotic, demonic, sexy, medium-volumed "I AM the only man you think about."

    Then continue with your TXT routine. "When I F\/CK you, I F\/CK you until your whole body is sore." She responds. (whether it's sexy/flirty, ASD, or creatively mediocre), you forge on: "Don't you understand? I'm going to F\/CK you, and your legs will not forget it. Do you understand?" She responds, hopefully engaging you in the eroticism. If she engages you, ignore whatever she says next and say "You don't understand. Do you understand? You must seek permission."

    It should be noted that the "one step back" you take, is forced. Meaning, YOU take it back. You put it back. Push, then pull. You be the one to pull back. Control the frame. When she engages you on two different erotic advances/threads in a row, when she's expecting a third, you punish her or cut her off. "I'm disappointed in your failure. You have failed to satisfy." or "That's all for now. That's all you get."

    Then drop out of the conversation for a few hours or days. She'll come back. If at any point she mentions her boyfriend again, invoke the overlord. "SILENCE. I am the only man."

    Obviously, you'll need to take the appropriate creative license and tailor your conversation to your experience / age / comfort level. Like maybe you're still into care bears and dirty talk for you is "I'm SO going to practice making out with my pillow." Or maybe you're completely past my purely illustrative, graphic, DOM/SUB example and wanting to drop a deuce on her chest.

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    Oh, and if the back and forth (interested/not interested, aroused/demure, forward/back-pedaling) continues for more than two weeks. Tell her you think she's totally cool, but you're going to go do some other stuff / adventures / living for a while, and that you'll drop her a note from time to time. Ignore her for at least three weeks, a month or more, And send her purely for-your-entertainment-only, anecdotal, dollop of randomness txts (perhaps suggestive of the secrets you share together). Periodic, not more than once a week, spaced out for a while, nuggets of excitement. But don't engage her in conversation. It's a one-way check-in. So you go on living your life. If she ever comes to you "I HAVE to talk to you, she probably broke up or something." Or maybe she's getting married. Whatever, you're living your life.
    Last edited by JonTylerDiPrince; 03-10-2011 at 01:19 AM.

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    JonTyler, while I do agree that's the ASD, he doesn't have the frame for the whole "When I fuck you, I'll fuck you until your whole body is sore" kinda thing. At least not at this stage. It just turns him around as being weird and extremely creepy.

    A great time for this would be either before or during sex ( ideally ). For a tease, it would work wonders if used to get her horny, but only after they had sex before.

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    The point of my posts, are rarely to instruct on EXACTLY what to say or do, but to construct the frame the person needs to make something of it. He's already delving into dirty-talk territory. I'm giving him the frame.

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    Default Re: 1 step forward 2 steps back

    If you get to have these conversations in person, the boyfriend won't matter. Talk like this leads to a kiss close on the spot, and then a bounce to another venue (her place or yours) for a fuck close.


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