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    Default Re: GunsnGlory's Ultimate Texting Guide

    Wow, this is golden, I have just stumble on this post at the exact right time, just when I am struggling with my text convos, but I am in better place, thanks to this post creator

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    Default Re: GunsnGlory's Ultimate Texting Guide

    Amazing guide. Will definitely put it to use the next time!

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    Default Re: GunsnGlory's Ultimate Texting Guide

    Hey everyone!

    First of all, I want to apologize for this extraordinary act of necromancy. Also, for leaving everyone hanging. Life kind of got in the way. At this point, I'm pretty sure that everyone in this thread has moved on. I appreciate all your comments, and complements. The world of Pickup Artistry has changed in the age of social justice warriors. To whit, I have seen my own thread held up as an example of horrible objectification of women. More on that in a moment. You may wonder why I never completed this guide. This was for multiple reasons. One, I never felt like I had as firm a handle on the closing stuff as the rest of the guide. Two, I found the perfect lady and married her. I've since moved on to the much easier world of open relationships and mutual pick-up (I may write a guide on this at some point). However, in light of me seeing this thread still getting activity by people who have found it to be beneficial and also because I've seen it held-up as an example of "patriarchy", "pick-up" and "objectification " of women, I thought that I owed the community at least one final chapter. I can't guarantee that I will follow-up to the post, but I will do my best.

    First, to the women and men who have been angered by my guide:
    I will be the first to admit that some of the PUA terminology that I used can seem dehumanizing. This is not intentional, but I have used terms that the community understands as shorthand. I apologize for nothing. Secondly, I know that most of you care about being outraged, not about the real motives or results of the pick-up artist community. There are a lot of douchebags that only care about using women for sex. The rest of us genuinely want to use psychology to make ourselves more attractive and more successful at society and interacting with the opposite sex. If you had a perfectly wonderful evening with a stranger who happened to be naturally good at interacting with people of the opposite sex, and they made you feel so at ease and happy that it culminated in sex, a long friendship, or maybe you even marrying them, I doubt you'd be upset. Why is it so much worse when someone who isn't so naturally attuned takes the time to learn rules and techniques to help them be more successful? Ultimately they are learning how to make your experience more natural and wonderful. That should be commendable.

    Back to the guide. Sorry about the above, but it is actually relevant to this post. The dirty little secret is that everyone loves sex. Women want it just as much as guys. Unfortunately for them, sex comes with a lot more social and life consequences. They have to worry about rape, STD's (much more so than guys), if you will respect them after, pregnancy, and the social condemnation from their friends and society in general that may brand them a "slut". Your goal is to remove these barriers. If you've followed the rules I've set out in this guide, you will already have them at the point where they are turned on, pretty comfortable with you, and ready to have sex, if they didn't have to worry about the above barriers. It is really that simple. Your goal therefore is to make that happen.

    First, get to them physically. The easiest way it to just suggest that you should come over. They will be more comfortable at their place, in most cases. Expect a certain amount of push-back. Remember, she has a lot of concerns on her mind, and she also needs to not feel like she is too easy (see the getting branded as a "slut" item above). If she says something like "Idk...", I usually respond with, "Well that makes one of us :P". Then just give her a bit of a hard time in a joking manner. If she doesn't invite you over after a little back and forth, you can switch to inviting her over, though she will usually be more comfortable in her place. Once you get the go-ahead you need to minimize the time to get to her place. Whenever we are nervous our minds like to think up terrible worst-case scenarios. Women are no different. This is the root of the famed "objections". Finally, realize no matter how turned on she may be, she may actually have conflicting plans that she can't put off. In this case, your best bet is to tell her, that you'll catch her later, and then stop texting her for a bit. You want to leave her wanting more. Tell her to text you when she's free. If she's still into you, you can be certain that the next time she texts you, she's planned for extra curricular activity if things go well. If she rejects you, don't take it personally. It could be not an opportune time of the month, or you could have misjudged the intimacy. The way you recover is backing down to right below the heavy sexual innuendo's point and starting over at a later date. Don't act like an immature jerk. Pretend like it's no big deal. If you make it a big deal or take personal offense it will be a major turn-off for her.

    Alright, so you are going to meet her. She's primed and ready. At this point there really isn't anything I could say that others haven't covered far better than me. When you arrive you want to be assertive but respectful and immediately pick-up from where you left off. The natural tendency is to fall back to a less intimate, awkward point. The way you mitigate that is to be assertive and attempt to continue almost exactly from where you left off in text. When she opens the door, be confident. I like to make a joke like, "You look flushed. Enjoying yourself, I see". Then take her hand and lead her to the nearest comfortable place if you can, like a couch, and move in for the kiss by looking her in the eyes. As soon as you have the kiss, immediately be "filled with passion" and start getting physical with your hands. This beats allowing lots of awkward conversation. You are your own worst enemy at this point. She wants to have sex with you, and she trusts you. Don't violate that trust and don't screw it up. Be assertive, but also don't try and force her. Appear confident, and actually know what you are doing in the bedroom. If you don't, then take time to read-up and fake it. Spend time making sure she is enjoying herself. Wear a condom, stress safety from your end (thus making her more comfortable). Tell her that the best sex is goofy sex. This allows for you both to make jokes if things don't go off in a Hollywood style (which they never will on a first time with a new person). Ask her if she likes what you are doing, and encourage her to give you directions. Have fun, be safe, and make sure she has a good time.

    You may hit some last minute objections. There are any number of great guides for overcoming objections. I won't rehash them here. Just remember not to look desperate, and make sure you stop if she really seriously objects. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Sometimes it isn't going to happen. Sometimes there is nothing you can ethically do about it. A lot of times, you can still salvage this by cuddling and making out. Even if you don't seriously enjoy this, it still sets up your later visits and cements that stage of your relationship. If you are only in it for casual reasons, don't fall back to cuddles and kissing, it is unethical because it is establishing that you want more than just a casual relationship.

    Before I sign-off, let me cover a couple of specific objections that might be unique to this type of escalation procedure, or which I haven't seen well covered.

    1) "I've never done anything like this before."
    This objection is fairly common and it mostly isn't an objection. It is her telling you that she's never met a guy for sex that she mostly knows through texting. It can mostly be ignored. She's also trying to make awkward conversation. My best advice is to say something like, "Well, have you ever done this before?", then kiss her. If you don't think you can go for the lips, kiss her hand and work your way up, asking her, "What about this?" at each point.

    2) General awkwardness.
    This is going to be a lot greater than a typical pick-up because there is a larger gap between the sexual build up and when you can physically get to her. The best response is to be assertive and deflect with jokes. You can be a bit forward, she most likely wants to get through the awkward prelude to the fun stuff as much as you.

    Hope this helps you guys out. Remember, women are just like you. They have similar needs and desires. If you got them to the previous stages described in my original guide, you're in the home stretch. Once you've had sex with a woman, you should end up in a situation where at worst, it was a pleasant experience she will remember fondly. At best, maybe you found the woman you want to be with for the rest of your life, or at least one of them


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