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    Default Re: Profile Suggestions: POF

    Quote Originally Posted by marlinfisher View Post
    Here is what I use in Tucson AZ;

    "If men knew what women were thinking life would be boring, if women knew what men were thinking life would be lonely!"

    A lot of people here are incredibly immature. All they focus on is how someone looks. But I learned, from an early age (itís a long story, Iíll tell you some other time), that beauty is common. Sure, its work to maintain, but so what if youíre beautiful? There are so many beautiful people in the world. Look around. Big Deal! Beauty is an accident Ė so you got lucky in the gene pool- but what have you made of yourself. Thatís what I am interested in. So for me when I meet someone that is attractive, it does nothing for me. And in fact I often wonder if theyíve gotten lazy cultivating the other parts of their personality, the ones that donít fade.

    Now I could sit here and write a paragraph about myself telling you all about my great qualities that may or may not interest you. The only things I think you really want to know is I am not under any kind of court ordered supervision nor do I have to see a professional on a regular basis to get medication to regulate my mental state. I don't live with mom and Monday through Friday from 7-4 I am at an office earning a paycheck.

    I'm more than the usual amount of interesting and funny, so you'd better like to laugh. Think you have a personality that can keep me interested? If you do I would love to meet you and see what kind of friends we would make. I mean that's where it all starts right?

    I am a sucker for a good conversation so I hope you can keep up!

    This is very sound thinking. I have some thoughts to add. This applies to online dating and offline pickup opportunities....

    Just because a girl looks hot doesn't mean she's great in bed. We have misled ourselves into believing that the hottest chick in the room is also going to be the best in bed. That's not necessarily true.

    All those notions are really subjective anyway. What is hot? What is great in bed? I imagine those are different for everyone. I want a woman that looks good to me. But she may or may not necessarily be the hottest one in the room. That is up for debate.

    I've dated plenty of hot chicks who became lazy in many aspects of their life because of their looks. No conversational skills. Worse yet, great to look at, but boring in bed. What value is that? So my friends are jealous, but I'm not getting what I want from the girl.

    On the other hand, I have found chicks who are hot, cute, attractive, interesting, but not necessarily 10s, who were like porn stars in the sack. For my time, that is a whole lot better value.

    So the question is: how do you position yourself (in online profiles, or offline in bars / pickup sets, etc...) to find chicks who will really get you off? How do you find out if the chick you are spending so much time and energy working on is worth it sexually? Maybe she's terrible. Maybe she's only into straight missionary and you want a chick who's into bondage.

    The first huge step is figuring out what you want out of a relationship / woman. If you don't know yourself well enough, how will you know what you're looking for or when you've found it?

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    If you want to know how kinky a woman is online or at the bars you sinply start using sexual inuendo routines. When she laughs you say you naughty vixen I bet deep down your a cowgirl. She will ask why do you think that and you say, "You seem like the kind of woman who prefers being on top." Sometimes they will tell you, No i like it from behind," That's when you neg her and say What are you talking about. I meant like in control. Wow you are a dirty little vixen aren't you. I should spank you for your dirty mind." Get it?

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    Default Re: Profile Suggestions: POF

    That's a good approach for real-time / face-to-face pickups. But, a lot of these approaches leave much to random luck or chance. That can be exciting--kind of like finding buried treasure. You dig and find something unexpected.

    But, I like to control matters more. If I am seeking something in particular, I want to:
    1. Know what I'm looking for
    2. Know where to find it
    3. Know how to ask for it / get it
    4. Know what to do with it once I've got it

    This requires a lot of personal work. I'm not talking about lines to use on chicks in crowded, noisy bars. That stuff comes later in my book. First and foremost, I want to do the internal heavy lifting to know what I really want and what I'm really looking for.....Doggy style, girl on top, that's all kid stuff anyway. I'm not trying to be a dyck about it.

    I'm just saying there is a whole lot more to fulfilling fantasies and REALLY getting some. I'm not talking about how to get a girl out of a bar and into your bed. I'm talking about creating a strategy for getting chicks into freaky stuff--like handcuffs, power exchange, group encounters, bondage, etc....This goes way beyond "lucking" into a girl who likes various sexual positions and goes to the heart of really enjoying the type of sex you want to have.

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    Actually its not about random luck if you know how and when to use it. The women you are talking about are no different then any other HB8-10. All women like being sexually suggestive. If you dont want to use the routine I suggest, I don't see how else you can see whether they are good someone who is going to be decent inbed until you get there. And you are the man. you lead them in the seduction. You decide what positions to do and how many orgasms you and she has. Once you have that confidence and game, there's no such things as bad sex.

    That all takes time to develop. You need to practice in the field until you are ready for the one you are talking about. Just because you caught a bass in a lake some afternoon while drinking beer with your buddies doesn't mean you are ready to fish Marlin. But this post is about ONLINE Profiles. Its designed to get the maximum amount of responses from the people who read it.

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    Default Re: Profile Suggestions: POF

    Quote Originally Posted by marlinfisher View Post

    That all takes time to develop. You need to practice in the field until you are ready for the one you are talking about. Just because you caught a bass in a lake some afternoon while drinking beer with your buddies doesn't mean you are ready to fish Marlin. But this post is about ONLINE Profiles. Its designed to get the maximum amount of responses from the people who read it.
    Indeed. And since we're talking about the online world, we should talk about online opportunities and solutions--not some pickup lines that may or may not be successful in a bar.

    If I am looking online to hook up, before I do anything else--before I write my first word--I determine what kind of fantasy I want to fulfill and what kind of chick will do that with me. It all starts there.

    If I want to hook up with someone freaky, I'm not going to post a profile that talks about myself in a plain, boring, cast-the-widest-net possible approach. The guys who write those sorts of profiles are trying to be something for all people. The theory is that if they are as broad as possible, they will find someone (anyone) who is interested in something they have to offer. That usually leads to failure across the board. Chicks are usually looking for something specific -- not just anything at all.

    So, if I want someone freaky, I have to come off as a freak myself, or as someone who understands freaky chicks and what they want in their lives. A freaky chick is not going to see a plain vanilla post and be interested in what that guy is offering. You have to capture her imagination. You have to show her you have what she wants.

    Allow me to illustrate. Since you like the fishing analogies, we should stay in that realm. When you go out in a boat, you determine what you're fishing for, where you expect to find those fish and what bait you will use to get them on the hook. Marlin doesn't bite at fly lures. Same thing applies to online pickups.

    First, determine what kind of fish you want. In this case, for me at least, I want to determine what kind of sexual experience I want at this time. It may be several different types of encounters. But, for each of those, there is a different type of chick (potentially), a different place to find her, and a different bait to get her on the hook.

    If, for example, I want a chick to bring home to mother, I am not going to seek out a bondage freak who is pierced and does her best work on her knees. If I want someone like that, I am going to look in a different place, and I am certainly going to communicate with her completely differently than I would with a girl-next-door type of chick.

    Forget about HBs. Forget about blondes, red heads, etc.....Forget about pickup routines. If that is the extent of your imagination, so be it.

    Instead, think about fantasies YOU have. Consider the things YOU want from women. Be honest with yourself. Once you do that work, you can identify what kind of chick you want to catch today. Ideally, it should be the chick who will help you satisfy your deep desire to ___________(fill in the blank here).

    If you succeed in finding that chick who is willing to fulfill your fantasy, does it really matter if she is blond or brunette? Does it really matter if your friends think she's an HB8 or HB10?

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    I have to say, Tango, you make some very very relevant and valid points.

    This comes from girls being mystified into these glorious beings who men need to fulfill and adapt to. It stems from men having to succumb to their conversation topics, their own thoughts, and what they want to do.

    Men need to determine what THEY want in the relationship. If a girl can fulfill it, and she is content, and happy, then it doesn't matter what Joe Schmoe thinks of her, all that matters is that you are satisified, you found that catch, and you are in your own little fantasy.

    How many men out there approach a women at a bar because she is hot? How many times have we done that to find out she was bland and boring and had no substance to her whatsoever?

    I recently met up with a girl I met offline. She was sort of interesting, sounded like she had a head on her shoulders, so we met up. The entire time, she kept telling me who she wasn't. "I am not this kind of girl to bla bla bla bla bla bla. I am not the kind of girl that thinks bla bla bla bla." Great, but what kind of girl are you then?... Also, she said she doesn't like guys who are this or that or this or that. Also, great for her. She knows what she doesn't like. But what she failed to notice that it isn't always about what she wants or needs in a man. Maybe the men in her past didn't work because they both weren't what they both wanted or needed.

    I guess it comes down to picking what you want from a women, and finding it. Otherwise, it may be fun for a little, but it may just be plain or boring.

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    Well as much it would be nice, Online dating is not a women catalog. There are certain types of women who do it and certain types of women who don't. I believe the type of woman you are looking for is going to be a rare find online if at all. For women there is a fine line between freak and slut. Which I think all woman, with the right guy, can be both. Unlike hitting the night spots to find women online dating is like net fishing. You put your net out and haul it in when its full. You throw back what you don't want and keep what you do. Even on sites like Fling and Adult Friend Finder where the majority of the women are strippers and call girls you will be hard pressed to identify the woman you say you want much less impress her over all the other perverted crap she has already heard. This comes from more then 10 years of online dating. I would love it if a woman said in her profile she has a Stripper pole in her bedroom and a dungeon in her basement next to a fully stocked bar. What your looking for you arent going to read in their profile and no matter what you put in yours they arent going to come to you. But if you think you can then by all means share it with us.

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    If you feel the women I've described are a rare find, you really need to speak with my friend. He has made a lifestyle out of finding such women online. I imagine you would find that hard to believe. I suggest the reason for your disbelief -- and for your overall online experiences and frustrations -- is because you are on sites where women fill out profiles, and read men's profiles. Those things are static. And you're right.....they are like net fishing.

    However, my friend has discovered a way of picking up online that completely changes the dynamic. He has spent the last 18 months exploring Craigslist and refining his system for picking up chicks on that site. In that time, he has slept with more than 120 women. That's two new chicks per week for a year and a half. I have met several of the women he's scored on CL, and they are not hookers or dudes. Some are smoking hot. Many are into fulfilling fantasies that would surprise / shock you.

    His is not a simple approach, but it is very smart and very easily taught to others. I have been discussing it with him, and sharing some thoughts on this forum as well. It is amazing what can be achieved if you change your Mindset and start thinking fourth dimensionally.

    If you want real details.....I can share specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr8Hyde6 View Post
    I have to say, Tango, you make some very very relevant and valid points.
    Thanks, Hyde.

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    Default Re: Profile Suggestions: POF

    LOL who said I was frustrated. I am doing awesome here in Tucson despite the low population. I have been online dating for over 10 years. I havent dated anyone less the that HB8 and i have multiple dates with multiple women per week. Heck its hard to go out to the bars and sarge with as little time as I seem to have. Craigslist here is a waste of time all ads and Ugs. One thing i never do is talk from someone elses experience. I only talk from my own. But thanks for the input.


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