Advanced PUA's TELL ME What is going on..

Okey, so imma start off with that im new at this "game" so i need to know what is going on here,
imma give u examples:

I'm approaching a set, 1 men 2 women, i start off asking from the man opinion about "Perfect girlfriend" what are the four things that she should have, you know. after that he answered after little thinking, and while he was thinking i asked the same question from the girls at set, they allso answered BUT

I tryed this for like 3-5 sets and it worked far as opening the conversation, and i used everything from cocky funny to cold reading to their answers but somehow they ended up going away? why? i got the same response from all of the sets, EXACT same. I belive that i was using the right bodylanguage and voice tone but somehow the question maybe was too ruff? or? the + was that it really got theyr attention but it didnt last long enough for continuing the convo.
idk what is going on here so pls, if you have any suggestions about better openers for clubs, that get ppl attetion Tell me!

Thank you and sorry for my bad eng p'z

i reckon the whole perfect girlfriend thing is too serious go for something a lot more playful..
When i first read that the first thing that came to mind was that you had a hidden agenda..

I agree with grex.

That Opener seems too try hard and isn't really super interesting for girls. I do like the fact that you are opening mixed sets - that is a huge. I would seriously consider trying to find something unique that is situational. And it should bring value to the group you are talking to. Many of the opinion openers are overused and somewhat dated.

Work on your situational opener game.

well I think that the Opener wasnt to bad of an Idea however if you used it in a club to open chicks or try to Pick them up it would not be successful 1. Its an Uninteresting topic 2. Like Bill and Grex said it conveys an hidden agenda, and believe me women are ace at picking up hidden agendas its lik a 6th sense lol. To try to remedy your issue try to base the opinion opener on "A situation that your buddy might be going through at the time" so for ex you could say

Really quick guys...you look like you might be able to help me with a question me and my buddy have been talking about. So check it out he's been dating this for the past 2 weeks and he's thinking about making it official wat are some good quals that he might look out for to help him make his decision?

I mean its worth giving it a try I learned that some times its best to place the attention on someone else when it comes to opinion openers. hopefully this helps.

-Until next time

Thanks for the replys.
I see it more clearly now, its too serious question for the club.. People have that certain mood when they are out at club, so serious questions will only bring their mood down, so i realized that better way is to open with upbeat Mindset and just go for something funny and go from there.. I feel like it dosnt even matter that much what u say at the first place, more how you go from there to hook the conversation.

Do you guys have any good tips about keeping conversation intrested and how to really "hook" girl into it?

Thanks

Try having a second Opener ready to go, and make it something somewhat similar. I like to open with a real quick opinion opener, and then follow it up with a funny hook opener. Make sure that both are rooted and have a time constraint. The root is more important on the second opener, and the time constraint needs to be the same and more imperative on the second. (PM me if you don't know about roots or time constraints.)

Keep in mind, your opener will not get you far. It's meant to do one thing...open! Let the conversation do its thing, and then segway into something else. If you do end up having more to say about the original opener, revisit it later. Having multiple conversation threads going is important.

Me personally lik to base my convo's on anything that will bring a womans primal side aka the lustful side that all women try to hide out. So wat prefer to do is start wit a quick Opener sometimes direct like for ex

Say really quick I jus hav a couple of sec's I jus wanted to tell u that ur quite attractive. I wasnt going to say any thing at first but I figured that you only get one chance in life to do wat u want so heres my chance. I know this may be a bit Wild, Spontaneous and Crazy but wat the hell ( you want to use descriptions that will lead the IA in a pos way) So whats your name? and just lead the IA from there using any material that you choose

This has worked for me on several occasions, wat it does is

1. convey a sort of confidence/spontaneity
2. Humanizes you (lets her know that your not above letting her know how you feel at that moment)
3. leads the IA (interaction) in a pos direction

When you use this type of technique be as confident as possible when you talk to her stair her deep in the eyes not for too long jus long enough to show her your sincerity, but try not to come off as creepy, nervous or jus plain weird. Let me kno how it goes if you choose to use this technique.

-Until next time-

Everyone is different and different strokes for different folks but I've ALWAYS had better success with women by being direct. One night we were out and my wing and I saw and amazingly hot gal walk into the crowded bar and we both HAD to pull her aside and tell her she was amazing looking. Her SUPER DUPER hot friend behind her heard us and looked down because we didn't say anything to her (she was hot, but she was behind her hot friend and we just didn't notice her at first).

I immediately whispered in her ear as I pulled her close... "Damn - you are hot" (with a sly smile as I walked past her and away).

I had a this is fun, she is cute and I am not concerned if she likes me or not attitude.

As I was leaving to change venue, I walked up to her and said "We are taking off, but I need your number" and handed her my phone and briefly kissed her after she entered it in her phone in front of everyone as I left the bar with my boys a few moments later.

(Slept with her two nights later after I met her for a drink at my place)...

Thats awesome bill, I can say that I have had similar success with a similar technique like i listed up above. Im all about bringing out a woman Primal unadulterated passionate side out, even if its jus giving here the slightest touch that sends her afire and makes her want to rape me on the spot. I tend to use alot of EB'ing (ego boosting a which are a few techniques that I relize while being in the field ill explain more later) which basically gives the woman a sense of feeling beautiful and gives her a sense of control it works like a charm believe me . I guess Im pass using material now which is where I wanted to be.

Great story Bill - reminds me of the days when I was single.