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Old 09-11-2010, 11:06 AM
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Default Crazy sat night

So yesterday me,my sister and her friends went to a very cool and crowded club.
She and her best girl friend told me that one of the girls who was going with us was into me.
This HB10 was so farking difficult!!!I was so beta with this girl!She'd push/pull every farking instant,and her sh1t tests were sooo intimidating!There was a time I was so farking intimidated with one of her sh1t tests that my voice got thinner for a moment...
I didn't really open any group (despite the tons of IOIs I was getting)...it's like I also got into this girl...
She'd try to get my attention so bad,and when she did it after being nice and throw some IOIs she'd sh1t test me or neg me...
When some guys would try to hit on her she would come back to me and I'd be like "playing her boyfriend"...
I tried to kiss her twice.In one of my attempts I was having a very sexy dance with her and one of my hands was at her neck while the other was at her face...but it didn't work.
We touched each other a lot,sometimes in a very sexy manner...who saw us would really think she was my girlfriend...
At the end of the night they put this horrible songs and because of that I sat down in a corner with one of my friends (I met some people I knew... '-').She came after me and sat by my side.She asked if I wanted to dance and as I didn't she started a conversation and a bit latter showed me some photos in her cellphone,I kind of ignored her.Than she put her hand in my leg and lay down her head in my shoulder.We cuddle a bit.
Then we left...
Ah,I was surrounded by a lot of beautiful women the hole time...
And spent most of my night with her...
And...this club was really awesome!!!
idk if it has something to do with it (I have a lot of theorys in my mind...) but I'm tall,buff,blond and have green eyes which is very uncommon here.
About the sh1t tests,I'd answer then as an AFC and would simply ignore her response,which I think is not passing then.

My questions are:
Was she really into me or I was just her toy or something like that?
How would you proceed in a situation like that?
Am I allowed to hit on other girls in that situation?
Do I still have a chance with her (she's so beautiful.. '-')? kkkkkkk

Holy crap dudes...!
I'm going out again today and I want to know what to do if I get in a similar situation...

Ps: actually,crazy friday night... T-T ... srry
Ps˛: I'm so bad at it... T-T



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Old 09-11-2010, 07:55 PM
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Going to another club tonight.
I'll report it here...


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ok well you did bad! im going to be hard cause tough love is the best for learning.

WTF were you thinking. not only did you put her p*ssy on a pedestel that night, you still farking are. "shes so beautiful." i dont care if she is beautiful. you need to grow some nuts and act like an alpha male, not a beta male that will be there when she wants attention. did you notice when you wouldnt do the stuff she wanted, she would follow you around and do what you wanted. HMMM that tells me something. she thinks she owns you, she can make you do anything she wants. so as far as inner game and being alpha, you failed miserably.

Ok next off, you did good to try and sexually escalalte and the dance floor is a perfect place for it. you can grind and get her so sexually escalated its crazy. so good on you to go for the kiss and also use kino. but you didnt say what happened with the kiss close. you just say it didnt work. How? did she pull back or what did she do? oh and persistent action is usually the key. cause she rejects the first kiss or first few kisses doesnt mean she isnt into you! you need to try a few more times.

Ok next off, you did good to go out with your sister and her friends because you walk in the vlub with tons of girls and automatically have social proof out the ass. but was this the friend that was into you, cause if so that answers your question. yes she is into you!!! stop thinking so much and acting like such a beta AFC. to be alpha is to own your actions and always know you did them cause you wanted. lets put an example up. ok so lets say you try to sexually escalate and you offend her. most beta male (bitch afc's lol) would be overapologetic and trying to look for her to say its ok. what does an alpha male do? he simply apologizes once and moves on. alpha males know we are sexual beings and you cant be sorry for owning your sexuality. so next thing you need to work on is inner game and how to be alpha.

Ok and time to answer your questions
1)she was into you, but you werent getting her more attracted cause she could do what she wanted with you most of the time. same idea as Cat String Theory. she is going to get bored if you just give her everything she wants!! make her work for it and she will start to have fun chasing you. lately with all the girls im hitting on im literally getting them infatuated with me because they have to chase me, but when i reward them they love it. the thing that does it though is push pull. i give them a reward and then go back to being difficult and fiesty but fun. (not being an asshole). you saw when you didnt do what she wanted she chased you, use that against her

2)NEXT TIME, you need to make sure to fix some things, be fun, sexually escalate (a lot), be persistent on kiss closing her, and then just having fun and doing the usual pua things. you can come back from this cause the end of the night ending up with her hand on ur leg (thigh i hope) and cuddling. so she feels for you but the attraction will be lost if you dont fix these things bro.

3)ARE YOU farkING SERIOUS?!? of course your allowed to hit on other women. she will work for your attention anymore. just cause you guys find each other attractive doesnt mean she gets you until she finds out if she likes you or not. screw that, hit on other women but reward her with your attention over another girl sometimes. sometimes it would be good to be talking to a girl and leave the set to give her attention. but if it works well dont be such a beta p*ssy to not walk away. there is a reason push pull works so well. DO IT!!

4)STOP PUTTING THE p*ssy ON A PEDESTEL!!! just cause a girl is hot isnt much. there is the HB1-10 system but then there is the real system that people care about. the HB1-5. 1 being ugly and horrible personality. 5 being hot with amazing personality. JUST CAUSE A GIRL IS HOT, DOESNT MEAN SHE HAS EARNED YOUR INTEREST YET!!! REMEMBER THE WORD "EARNED". a girl has to earn our interest in her, when dont just hand it out to women that are hot. thats completely farking beta. learn to be alpha!!!

ok well sorry for the language but sometimes tough love is needed in order to learn!! good luck tonight bro. i hope i get a field report of a crazy threesome with 2 HB 10's that are friends or something

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Old 09-12-2010, 06:52 PM
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Man,as long as I'm learning you can beat me up and call me little princess that I'll be truly glad you're teaching me.
About the first part of your post...Yeah,I'll work hard in this inner game and alpha male part... : |
In the attempt of K-closing her I described in my post,she simply backed off and said something I don't remember.I insisted a bit and got kind of the same result.
I tried to push pull as you said,but did it very in a wrong way. kkkkkk
Ah...I thought she'd be pissed of if I hit on other girls. : x
About meeting her again,should I try to text game her (if so,I've heard you're an specialist crob,help me out... '-') and after a while ask her out or simply wait until we go to the same place (it can take a while...(or not))?
And finally,my sister said she will become a promoter of this club this week.That will help me out a lot,won't it?How can I make it do so?
Oh...and I'm very thankful for your tips in general!!
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Now about yesterday...
I went to a horrible alternative club with one my friends despite the fact that yesterday was like THE DAY (there was so many crazy very cool partys going on...) because any of my friends could afford the entrance ticket of any cool party (It brought the thought of going out alone several times,but I just didn't have the balls to do so...should I?).
Getting there we got a drink and went near the dance floor.After finishing my drink I tried to open a group in the dance floor with "could you please teach me how to dance?It's like...I never danced this kind of music." but I didn't get a good response.Opened a male group and they became our friends.Went to the bar area to get a drink and there I met this very cool HB5.It was something like (I kinoed the whole time):
ME: *accidentally touch her purse*
HB5: *pushes her purse away*
ME: wow, it's not like I'm a thief or something like that ... : o *I didn't say that,but that was the idea*
HB5: *laughing and IOIng* haha...I thought it was bothering you...btw,what's your name?
ME: *name* blah blah... so,what drink are you going to get?
HB5: blah blah ... a martini...what about you?
ME: I think I'll stick with the standard bear...
HB5: wow,you gotta get some heineken or black bear...they're the best.
ME: I'm not very found of a black bear,but hell yeah I'm going to get a heineken! *noticing her male friend going away* ... so,who came with you?
HB5: *serious response* ah...with that friend and a couple friends...what about you?
ME: with a couple male friends...It's the first time we come here... *her drink is now ready since some time ago*
HB5: are you liking it?
ME: yeah yeah...it's pretty cool...
*We talk a little bit more,and then...*
HB5: hum...gotta go... *grab my hand,we kiss each other cheeks twice,she goes to a table with her friends*
I didn't try to at least Number Close her because I thought we'd met again,but it didn't happen.I think I did at least a bit well with this one.
So I get back to my friend and our new friends and they introduce us to they female friends.I notice a HB3 IOIng me a lot.Me and my friend talk to the group in general and after a while go back to the dance floor because there was a little show going on.
There I met this crazy HB4 and it was something like:
HB4: *looks at me and laughs*
ME: wow why are you looking at me and laughing? *I didn't say that,but that was the idea*
HB4: *laughing* hahaha...It's because I thought you were gay and was hitting on the vocalist...
**I was looking at the vocalist/distance behind the stage and dancing,as suggested by gambler**
ME: *make a joke about it,make clear that I'm not gay at all*
HB4: so,what's your name?
ME: *name* blah blah...
HB4: so...what do you do?
ME: *I invent I'm doing engineering,first year*
HB4: *says something like: "wow,that's to bad..you're to young*
ME: *don't recall what I said,but tried to neg her*
*Talk like 1 min or two (she was making me a lot of questions...) and..*
HB4: hey,pay me a drink...
ME: pay me one first and I'll think about it...
HB4: *simply turns her body a bit and we loose proximity*
*A bit latter and I touch her back lightly asking for her bear in a goofy way (big mistake,right?) she negs me again,I simply ignore it.Dance a little bit more and say to my friend that I'm going to sit down to rest a bit.*
She was sometimes laughing and others a bit serious.Despite the proximity (sometimes my lips would almost touch hers when she'd talk with me),body contact and etc,I'm about 80% sure that this girl only wanted to get a drink from me,one of the reasons I didn't try to K-close her even when our lips were almost touching.
Looking for a empty table to sit I see this 2 girls (a HB5 and a HB4) sited alone in this table,when my friend was almost siting in an empty table I open them and it goes something like:
ME: *sit down and use some kind of the psychologist routine,it opens them pretty well!*
HB5: wow friend,so open up with us!Talk everything about yourself!
*My friend sits by my side*
ME: hey hey...slow it down girl! What do you wanna know?
HB5: what's your name?
ME: *name* so.. *get interrupted*
HB5: what do you do?
ME: let's just say I make success... (In Portuguese it sounds kind of funny).
HB5: *starts asking something I don't recall very well,I interrupt her.*
ME: wait a second,she said I should talk,not be interrogated! *I didn't say that,but that was the idea*.Let's play the question game. *Explain the rules to them*
I ask some light questions and start to bring up the topic of sex (I don't recall where I read about how to do this,specially in this game.. : x).Everything is going very well until now.The boyfriend of the HB4 arrives and a friend of the HB5 starts to talk with her.I tried to open the boyfriend but it don't go so well.I tried some AMOG/Boyfriend destroyer techniques (despite his girlfriend is not my target) but it also didn't work out.He was like "get lost dudes...".My friend low my value to this dude (due to what I just said).The HB5 friend goes away and I don't retake the game.I try to chat to her a bit more but it's like I've lost some attraction or something like that.I say goodbye and kiss her chicks twice,she goes for the third kiss and says a well know joke here: "The third is to marry.".I notice she haves beautiful eyes and asks to see them.I say something like: "wow, color x, common but really really gorgeous".She negs me hard (very sarcastic comment...) and I make a joke about her neg then I go away.
We meet our new male friends again and one of them says: "The *HB3 I told you about* wants to kiss you *Here we have a slang that says basically that*.".I say I'll think about it.We chat a bit more and I sit down to rest a bit.Then I go home.
I reported the conversations and openers very carefully (despite knowing I messed it up a bit) because I want to know how am I going in this aspect of my PU (I'm following "theredmole" 100 set level up stuff...) and what can I get better in this.I also accept me some general tips. : p
Ah,besides that in the club there were like 5 HB5s seated by themselves in a table in the corner (they wasn't liking the place at all).I didn't approach them because it didn't seem to have a free sit,they didn't seem to like the music at all (I'm 100% sure they didn't) and also didn't seem very receptive.Would you approach them?If so,how would you do it?Ah...they were sited the hole time.. : |
Thanks in advance!

This weekend I'm going to the club my sister will become a promoter and another very cool (and new) club to celebrate a friend's birthday.I'll practice even more... !

PS: my city has a loooot of HB5s.It's hard to find a city here like mine... : p



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Old 09-12-2010, 11:05 PM
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haha there you go. starting to use the new system. a system with looks and personality. haha but yeah i am kind of the text expert for this site but if you want just ask what you want to do and ill try to hook you up

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Old 09-13-2010, 10:10 AM
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Yeah,I'm trying to do so...didn't have any success yet,but I'll get there with a lot of practice (hopefully...).
Hum...I want to set up a "date" with her... kkkkkk. What is a cool first message to send in orkut (after that beeing answered I'll create a thread about how it is going)?I know some but I don't think they are good in this case...
And a doubt I'm very curious about is the one about approaching the seated HB5s...how would you proceed?



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ok i have to go to class but ill give you a good post later today or tomorrow. maybe tcomea2 will help you out before i get back to you

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:27 PM
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Hum,all right.
Waiting for your response. : x


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Ok I know English isn’t your native language and im not bashing, but im having a hard time finding what you are asking us for. Can you clarify your question please and I will be happy to try to help.


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Old 09-15-2010, 04:25 PM
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Hum...just tell me when that's the case.I know my English sucks... '-'
1 - How would you approach the HBs seated by themselves in a table in the corner?
2 - What's a cool first message to send to my sister's friend I told you about?
3 - What're some major points I should improve besides what crob just said?



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