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Unread 11-28-2009, 03:37 AM
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Hi Guys
My psychotherapist is a hot woman of 30. Not married but with bf. How can i go about seducing her? Has this ever been done?

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Unread 11-29-2009, 11:29 PM
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mm im a psych student..though you could prolly give it a go, however because of ethics and client therapist confidentiality it would be unethical of her to be seduced by a client.

Having said that give it a go, you never know she might show you some real "psychotherapy": p


 
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I would think that it would be much like seducing a stripper. In both cases the woman is going to come into the situation with a frame of reference that you need to reject. You need to break out of the role that she has mentally placed you in. Both types of women are going to objectify you. You need to shake them up and throw them off their games. With the psychotherapist it will be extra hard because she is programmed to not let you steer the conversation to anything about her. Furthermore, anything that you say about yourself and your feelings will allow her to analyse you. If you avoid her questions, or attempt to re-frame the questions, she will think you are avoiding issues because of psychological reasons. I don't have an answer for you, but these are some of the things you need to think about. In some ways, I think your best bet would be to non-verbally attempt to slowly escalate Kino. Also, when you are talking about completely un-sexual or romantic things, try to force some ioi's. If she responds positively, you might wait until the conversation is completely non-sexual and then drop a very direct opener on her. It would catch her off guard and hopefully bypass her professional safeguards. If you can rattle her cage, you are going to have to act fast at that point. You will need to distract her, but hitting her with a bunch of related but non-commitment type questions. For instance, the whole, "I hate these funky psychology chairs, we should meet over coffee. You do like coffee don't you?" When she answers yes, she is saying she likes coffee, but also she is mentally agreeing to coffee. You reinforce that by saying something like, "Good, we'll meet next week at..." After that, you immediately move into another question that is even further away from the topic. After that, I would extract myself from the meeting as soon as possible. When you meet her again, you are going to have a hell of a battle.

Any way you approach this, it is going to be a very tough pick-up. It may not be impossible, but it is not for amateurs.


 
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thanks guys. I am going to give it a go. I know she reads my body language so i have been using that and noticed her blush when i licked my lips. I thought i wud concentrate on that angle but you are saying actually go for it directly? I thought it best to do a slow build up of interest as we will be seeing each other for a period of time and i didnt want to draw a line so early.


 
Unread 11-30-2009, 04:39 AM
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btw im knew to these on the level u guys r on. So can explain wot u mean by this:

"I think your best bet would be to non-verbally attempt to slowly escalate Kino. Also, when you are talking about completely un-sexual or romantic things, try to force some ioi's."


i dont feel i want to go right for a home run so early but would like like to bring an element of flirting to the session where she is associating my session with the flirting/sex thoughts and so sow a seed that way.


 
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The reason I said that I think you should hit her with a direct opener is because you are going to want to short circuit her defences. Once you have forced some ioi's (more on that in a moment) and maybe built some kino, she will subconsciously let her guard down. When she does that, you hit her her between the eyes with a completely unexpected, direct opener. At this point she likes you subconsciously, and now you force her to answer a question which she was not prepared to answer, but you have hopefully built enough attraction to bias her answer in your favour.

Forcing IOI's:
Forcing Indicators of Interest (IOI's) is the technique of using body language to communicate interest or sexual desire, and then reading the response. Your example of licking your lips and her blush is a perfect example. When you did that, she blushed. Unless you did it super creepy-like, the blush means that she was thinking about you sexually. Other things you can do include looking at her lips, letting your eyes wander across her body, looking her in the eyes and then doing a quick little wink and smile.

Another thing you can do is mirroring. Psychologists are particularly aware of this because they use the technique themselves. Let you body loosely mirror hers. In every case, try to make your mirror slightly more open and friendly than hers. After she has started mirroring you, look her in the eyes and then open your body in a slightly intimate and very open position and hopefully she will follow. If she does, reward her by forcing a strong IOI, something like taking, then stopping mid sentence for a second or two and then smiling.

If you are serious about this woman, I think you are going to need to discuss getting a new therapist with her as soon as you get her to step out of bounds a little bit. She could lose her license and her professional reputation is she gets into a serious relationship with you while you are still a client. You don't want to force her to have to make that decision. So build the attraction and try to get her to step outside of the boundaries just a bit. Then you can subtle hint that you want to change therapists so that you and she can hook up.



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One other thing about why I think you need to use a direct opener. Look at it this way: You aren't going to finesse her out for coffee or a drink. Her professional safeguards will get in the way. It is going to have to be a decision that she consciously makes to step over the line a little bit. While in her office, there is almost zero chance of having sex with her, and even if you could, it would be unethical on your behalf for trying to seduce her in a way that could totally destroy her professionally. In the end, you need to get her out of that setting, with enough attraction, then remove the professional obligation by getting a new therapist or at least dropping that you are going to (If things work out, then please do get a new therapist).


 
Unread 11-30-2009, 08:51 AM
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thanks that was a great help. You are right about the position she is in and im aware of that. Thats why i thought maybe if i could just stimulate a mutual low level understanding of a sexual Tension we could both play to that but within the paramters allowed by the situation. I know for me its a great turn on just if she was to tease back a little. Maybe i should think through the whole of your advice though. I guess ultimatley im more thinking of a game within a setting than outright seductio which as you point out, would ruin it all in terms of a working relationship. I read about sexual tranference and counter transference and that its a real phenomona i guess i thought that meant this was a possible reality in terms on an inner game without a wham bam thank you mam ending.


 
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Default Re: seducing a psychotherapist

If you only want to flirt with her for the hell of it, then there really isn't anything stopping you. If you want to actually develop the situation, you are going to have to forgo the doctor-patient relationship. You can't have both that and a real, sexual relationship.


 
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Guys do this weird thing when they get into pick up, they never turn it off.

Brother, let this one just be a friend, a therapist has a place in pick up, but its not in your bed, its in your head. Ignore her tits and short skirt suits and smooth stockings and high feminine power. Trust me, I find the powerful working women incredibly hot, but you gotta either find a male therapist who you don't want to fark, or be able to turn her into just one of the guys.

Go fark someone else's therapist, not yours. When I was working with therapists to study body language and behavior, they would actually talk about having sexual feelings as a tool to know when you are developing rapport, and never even thought of it actually happening, 95% of her male patients are trying to fark her, don't be one of them.


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