Opener: Kino Openers

i wouldnt go as far as spilling stuff on her and you wont be able to tell her you have a fever everytime. You can certainly go in with a back rub and then asking her to gve you one in return. But something as simple as turning her to face you while talking to her to get her attention is already kino. It doesnt have to be something dramatic.

I help some of my clients (this isn't pick up, this is just talking to anyone) approach the scariest thing (young hot women) by walking around a cold town with our hands in our pockets and a warm bottle in them. We approach a hot girl who is acting cold, Ask to see their hands, and then grab them with very warm hands. You can hold their hands for a while like this usually, as long as 2-3 minutes.

I usually advise women who are looking for men to do more of the Kino approach. One of those techniques is to grab a mans hand and just start dancing with him, this works especially good with confident men. Another way is to scratch the lower back of there head lightly, "Don't you love that, I am learning massage" also requires confidence, this is for more of the 6-7 scaled men, a 10 will look at you like you are crazy. (the entire point of my job).

I will give you one of my secret ones now, I always travel with 3 or 4 women when I go into a night club, and usually one man sometimes none (yes, it is possible to date two women at the same time, and then go home and have a 3 way), I get my primary, which is my girlfriend, and I will find a hot target for us, and I will ask her to look the other way, and grab her hair, and start putting it against my girlfriends saying "This is the color I was talking about, this is the color you should dye your hair with". Now depending on how confident, well dressed, and vibed you are, you can even ask her straight up if her curtains match the drapes, you get away with way more with your female wing next to you.

In an attempt to purposely fail by Escalating too fast (this girl was an example for a friend) , I did the hair color one, and then tried to go too far, to show someone that it is just a game, she had a necklace tied against her neck, and I asked her if I could see it and grabbed it to remove it, I think did the finger trick where you Bounce the ring back and fourth between your watch (My watch is broken, I drew a line with a cigarette on my wrist), I had her in my cage ( held between my two arms).The trick totally didn't work, but then When I went to put the ring back on, I rested my fingers that were holding the ring on her cleavage, with my thumb and palm on her breast, looked her right into the eye and then started to put it back on the necklace, then seeing that she didn't say sh1t about it, and got goose bumps , I started to rub up and down her neck with my fingers talking about how the secret to good sex, is to follow this artery all the way down her breasts (this is probably bullsh1t, and I didnt follow it further than her collarbone.)

Now she should have gotten freaked out at the speed, had "Anti-slut defense" and backed off, but she didnt, I dont know why, but there are some examples.

Does it then follow, generally, that going for girls on the dancefloor is a great strategy? Because you usually bump against them, most will allow some level of touching, and some will actually grind with you. I've even slapped some behinds without getting slapped on the face... but I may have lacked follow through.

Which is why am here anyway. To improve my game.

Someone who can actually dance might disagree, but for me, that is only true on opposite day, and then I guess you would go for dudes.....

If you don't absolutely suck at dancing, you can make the dance floor work, but it isn't intuitive. Gambler made some excellent observations in his Stealth Attraction series. The way you use the dance floor is that you ignore the women around you and just concentrate on having or looking like you are having fun. Women will begin to congregate around you because you are the ONLY guy on the floor who isn't attempting to undress them in your mind or trying to grind against them. If you want to pick up a woman on the floor, dance with your back to her and slowly touch her back with your back. Then back off. Then you start working up so you are dancing shoulder to shoulder, and you give her a quick look. Then you can progress it from there. Even if you don't hit on any women on the floor, you can gain a lot of Social Status because any woman on the dance floor will notice that you are surrounded by a lot of women and you are having fun.

^^ I am the worst dancer on the planet.

I challenge you to a dance off, as I believe I claim that title.

Also, I got a degree in Computer Science, and I program for a living. I think I got the geek thing working against the dancing too.

<-- Was CCNA certified a few years ago.....

LOL. I seldom expect a guy to really dance well but being in time to the beat is a must, even if he's just shaking his head
or tapping his foot. But you guys are right. Women steer clear of men they do not know who are dancing all out. We generally feel safer grinding with and going down on someone who seems like he's just enjoying himself... guys who don't have that lascivious look on their faces. Plus, we wouldn't be on the floor or on the ledge if we didn't want to be showing off how we can move, so a guy trying to upstage us is... well... ewwww to the Nth level!

There is what we call an Escalation ladder to seduction and picking women up. With Kino openers, you still begin with EYE CONTACT. The most important thing is to catch your target's eye and maintain eye contact and then, if you can, to shake her hands firmly. During the talk, there may be that accidental brushing of your arm on her arm while standing next to her (or accidental brushing wherever) or lightly touching her back or leaning forward to whisper something in her ear. Depending on whichever strategy it was you're employing, you could already be holding her hands, touching her palm, touching her hips, sitting with your legs touching, your arm over her shoulder or actually hugging, etc. Then later on, if you're lucky, you progress to kissing and groping and sex.


Just remember that the general rule is 2 steps forward and one step back.