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    Default Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    conquer your campus – Mark Redman

    It was alright. Some things were great, while others I just flat out disagreed with. If I were going to recommend it to a specific age group, I would say seniors in high school and freshmen in college… MAYBE sophomores. By the time you’ve reached junior year and beyond the majority of this college game theory is second nature. Here’s the breakdown:


    Cons:

    The assumption that everyone drinks in college. This seriously pisses me off.

    Promotion of Greek Society, especially SAE. I’m not even going to begin to get into sororities and fraternities. You are EXPONENTIALLY more likely to either commit or be a victim of sexual assault and/or rape. Sigma Alpha Epsilon? More like Sexual Assault Expected.

    The idea that campuses are universal. They aren’t. Not in the least.


    Pros:

    Clique and Tribe Theory. This was solid.

    Traits of a 20% Man. Also good.

    Bridging Social Gaps and Barriers. I really liked this.


    Like most things, take what you like and leave the rest. This isn't the only way to game in college, and I personally don't believe it's the best. I have taken and would recommend a different route, but to each their own.
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    Default Re: Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    I'm going to toss in my opinion on this book.

    I actually finished reading this 3 or 4 days ago after getting it in a package of reading material sent from a friend. I didn't ask for it or know it was coming, but when I saw the title I felt obligated as a college student to check it out.

    I'll be honest, I liked his whole approach to college game. Get the lifestyle and the girls will come naturally. You pair this attitude up with another technique (like cocky funny) and you'd have a nice gameplan laid out. I will warn you, if you're looking for a book that's just about getting college girls, this probably isn't gonna satisfy you. The book focuses on your whole approach to college, not just girls, which I thought was a cool twist.

    There are a few downsides to the book. Cody makes a good point, anyone who drinks as much as he shows in the book should probably stumble into an aa meeting pronto. Secondly, I didn't like how he generalized the girls into years like he did, showing the Mindset of freshman, sophomores, juniors, seniors, and grad students. Everyone's different, and you can't make assumptions about a persons desires and maturity level based solely on what year they are (also why I have problems with pandora's box). Like with all of the reading material about what we do, you have to take it with a grain of salt. Not all colleges work the same, not all girls work the same. You've got to be able to adapt and adjust your style to fit your surroundings.
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    Default Re: Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    I also had a friend send me the pdf asking my opinion on it and whether or not he should approach college game accordingly.

    Don't get me wrong, the theory is solid. It just has its biases, which is to be expected. It's a personal preference, and I would prefer to go about it a different way. But it's still a pretty good product.
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    Default Re: Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    Despite being a junior and state college student, and reading this at the start of sophomore year (more like skimming since a lot of it did not apply to me at all), it was pretty much useless.
    The whole idea is based around going out to parties and clubs and bars at night and somehow building a group of dude friends who are all knucklehead AMOG jocks. OK, so Im being a little biased here with my perception of it but honestly, I dont go to parties, I dont get invited to parties, I didn't really find parties fun at ALL, and personality-wise I dont get along with jocks and most of the time they wont give me the time of day.
    Having said all that, he also did say put school first, and since I actually have a serious major and life, I can't be spending all day partying. Some of you may be subconciously thinking Im just mad that I dont get invited or welcomed, but I did once and its nothing fun for me. I actually have no hostility towards any of them even if they show hostility towards me.
    But, however, I will try to implement what he said to maybe some Direct day game on campus.
    Im just a little sad its not going to help me.
    PM me if you have any advice since the day game is not working well

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    Default Re: Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    I read this book between my freshman and sophomore years of college, and I can say that most of it I supported and liked. For the most part, I can definitely agree on everything you have stated. However, there are the points where I will break away and disagree.

    Before I get into it, I will agree with your first stated con. College is not all about drinking, and at a school where they really crack down on that activity, you have to be careful about that sort of stuff. If you can game without the alcohol, you're pretty much set to go for most of the college scene. I also agree that no college is the same and that they all have their different political and social standards.

    However, I greatly disagree with your second view on sororities and fraternities. As you had stated, no college or university is the same. Likewise, no two chapters of a fraternity or sorority are the same. I have visited multiple chapters of my Greek group, and none of them are the same in terms of what they do or who the members are. I can tell you that after going through mine's pledging process and being around my fraternity, they DO NOT promote hazing, and they severely crack down on offenses like rape. They will blackball you and bring about penalties by the college and police, and they have done it recently.

    As you have pointed out, there are also the bad apples of the bunch. I know that the chapter of my fraternity in UW-Madison has their pledges sleep on the floors of the house for a whole week in nothing but sleeping bags while their studies took a heavy hit. There used to be a group on my campus that dealt drugs and were dangerous partiers, and I don't mean dangerous by they were awesome party animals.

    There are good groups, and there are bad groups. Just because you hear from one of your friends on one campus that a sorority or fraternity is bad does not mean that it will be the same at your college. Given that said, I would highly recommend researching your groups on campus before you think about joining one. Overall though, I believe that they can prove valuable during and after college.
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    Default Re: Conquer Your Campus - Mark Redman

    Seeing how I wrote this over a year ago and change, let me give a more productive and beneficial analysis:

    Redman's point was that Greek life is a fast way to expand your social circle, which is true, and I would even say that it is the fastest. If that sounds good to you then go for it, but it wasn't for me. I'm an introverted narcissist, choosing an illusion of social proof (followers over friends) rather than the legitimacy of multiple human relationships. Why? Because it alleviates responsibility for other people; I am nobody's go-to person for anything. I am emotionally free to live however I so choose without the reprimands of emotional attachments, aside from the small few of my own choosing.

    [tl;dr] I fly solo.

    And THAT, my friend, is DEFINITELY not what Greek life is all about.

    Examples that allude to what I'm talking about:

    Braveheart - When Wallace loses his father.
    Mark Manson's, The Dark Side of the Digital Nomad
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