Top 10 Stats
Latest Posts Loading... Loading...
Loading...
Loading...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Loading...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Results 1 to 10 of 10
Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By dgmortal
  • 1 Post By BatMan

Thread: How to be don draper

  1. #1
    Ashawnamous is offline Aspiring PUA
    Points: 62, Level: 1
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 38
    Overall activity: 0%
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4
    Points
    62
    Level
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Default How to be don draper

    Hey guys, I think I have been reading the wrong kind of books! I realize that I can't relate to the Mystery method kinda pickup stuff. I am pretty quiet and prefer to chime into conversations when I have something valuable to say rather than just run my mouth with silly stuff for the sake of conversation. I like to think of myself as the strong quiet type. Its really not a confidence or shyness issue. I like to think that when you aren't constantly making small talk or running your mouth people respect what you do say more. Certainly this has been my experience in other facets of life- business and social settings with male friends however I can't report the same with respect to pick up. There have got to be some PUAs out there who operate this way; I'd really like to find some experts out there who's style I can model. Any suggestions? The only one I've found that comes close is Robert Greene.

    I admire strong silent type characters like John Hamm (Don Draper), John Wayne, and Clint Eastwood who always seem to get the girl. Is this just a work of fiction or can this actually be a legitimate pickup strategy?

  2. #2
    The Red Baron's Avatar
    The Red Baron is offline PUA All Star
    Points: 16,918, Level: 83
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 432
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social10000 Experience Points31 days registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Minneapolis
    Posts
    995
    Points
    16,918
    Level
    83
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Rep Power
    734

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Green's stuff is some of the worst PUA advice I've ever read. Not to discredit his role in starting the discussion, but yea...

    As a big fan of mad men, draper is largely a work of fiction. Not entirely tho. He still approaches in minimum words, but he has an ultimate air of success and mystery

    You can make girls approach you with confidence and Peacock, and if you like, wear a suit every where - even if you're the only one at a hole in the wall bar it will make them wonder, and I assure you it will work for you even if you stand out

    But if you're still too afraid to approach, you're still going to fail

    You don't need to follow the manual of pickup, but the rules they lay out? They work. I approach with simple things, how's it going, etc, and create interest
    Read juggler's material, you may like that better

    And check my book list for full reviews of the techniques these guys use
    http://www.puaforums.com/recommended...-list-you.html
    Never need praise, sympathy, or approval



  3. #3
    BatMan's Avatar
    BatMan is offline PUA All Star
    Points: 31,552, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social25000 Experience Points31 days registered
    Awards:
    Most PopularCommunity Award
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    2,151
    Points
    31,552
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
    Rep Power
    1389

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Everyone has their own style of PUA. The reason why Don Draper works is because he is solid in his world. If you remember the early episodes when he was sleeping with that attractive artist...she had another guy fling who was like a hippie. Draper went along with them to go get high at some party I believe and he stuck out so bad with his nice suit and quiet demeanor. Getting high in a group of hippie like people isn't his world. But marketing on Madison Avenue is and this gives him a ton of value. Understand that value is based on perception. So anyone who knows who Don Draper is would have a ton of respect for him compared to someone who never heard of it. So it comes down to owning your world around you and in your world its your rules which is strong frame control. I know for a fact that if you are able to suck people into your world you can convince them of almost anything. Why do you think Joker did so well in Dark Knight? He's a maniac, but because he had such a strong sense of his reality he was able to shake yours and even have you rethinking your view of things.

  4. #4
    dgmortal is offline PUA All Star
    Points: 1,241, Level: 19
    Level completed: 41%, Points required for next Level: 59
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience Points7 days registered
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Tehran, Iran
    Posts
    134
    Points
    1,241
    Level
    19
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    59

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Yeah, alpha males don't speak that often and when they do, their words counts. for example watch the movie: Conan the Barbarian, see how silent he is and still women go wild for him. but in social situations like bars, parties etc you are there to talk, you should compete with those who talk because thats the only way you can connect to people, they don't have opportunity to see the other sides of you they don't know how rich you are, what a great warrior you are or what a great artist you are, you have to attract with talking first.

  5. #5
    DareMe is offline PUA in Training
    Points: 855, Level: 15
    Level completed: 55%, Points required for next Level: 45
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    500 Experience Points31 days registered
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    86
    Points
    855
    Level
    15
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    40

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Why do you think Joker did so well in Dark Knight? He's a maniac, but because he had such a strong sense of his reality he was able to shake yours and even have you rethinking your view of things.
    You rock. I would love it if ALL your posts had Batman references, BatMan. That's a Gotham challenge for you.

  6. #6
    BatMan's Avatar
    BatMan is offline PUA All Star
    Points: 31,552, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social25000 Experience Points31 days registered
    Awards:
    Most PopularCommunity Award
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    2,151
    Points
    31,552
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
    Rep Power
    1389

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Quote Originally Posted by DareMe View Post
    You rock. I would love it if ALL your posts had Batman references, BatMan. That's a Gotham challenge for you.
    Lol I think you're the only one that has caught on that I use a capital "M" instead of a lowercase. And that would be interesting if I could do that for every post.

  7. #7
    Virgil's Avatar
    Virgil is offline Moderator / PUA All Star
    Points: 18,408, Level: 86
    Level completed: 12%, Points required for next Level: 442
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social31 days registered10000 Experience Points
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    the Netherlands
    Posts
    923
    Points
    18,408
    Level
    86
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Rep Power
    789

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Why do you think Joker did so well in Dark Knight? He's a maniac, but because he had such a strong sense of his reality he was able to shake yours and even have you rethinking your view of things.
    I thought the Joker was an awesome character, but he didn't do that to me. Bane, however, is a different story. He totally sucked me in. I didn't find these characters to really be that quiet, though. Do you think a somewhat more quiet alpha male that's convinced of himself could be as effective as a very social one?

  8. #8
    BatMan's Avatar
    BatMan is offline PUA All Star
    Points: 31,552, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Social25000 Experience Points31 days registered
    Awards:
    Most PopularCommunity Award
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    2,151
    Points
    31,552
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts
    Rep Power
    1389

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Yes those guys are definitely not the quiet type lol, but they have strong realities or frames. I think a calm or quiet (not shy) alpha male can be just as effective, but I think it's more specific. He would have to have a lot of value with the people he surrounds himself with. Almost on the verge of him being worshipped. This is the type of scenario where he can be calm and quiet and still own the room. Like the owner of a nightclub or the DJ. However, being extremely social is always the safer bet and a more solid strategy.

  9. #9
    DareMe is offline PUA in Training
    Points: 855, Level: 15
    Level completed: 55%, Points required for next Level: 45
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    500 Experience Points31 days registered
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Posts
    86
    Points
    855
    Level
    15
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    40

    Default Re: How to bedon draper

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    This is the type of scenario where he can be calm and quiet and still own the room. Like the owner of a nightclub or the DJ.
    Or Bruce Wayne hosting a gala & pretending he's a guest for a few minutes alone with a blonde.

  10. #10
    Ashawnamous is offline Aspiring PUA
    Points: 62, Level: 1
    Level completed: 24%, Points required for next Level: 38
    Overall activity: 0%
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    4
    Points
    62
    Level
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: How to be don draper

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I have really come to the conclusion that the bar/club seen is not the right type of venue for my game. I do real well with girls at work, but always strike out at bars. I don't know cop out or is that legit? Other good venues for pickup for a quieter person? Juggler was a great suggestion, thanks Red Barron. Other books or authors worth reading?


Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
DMCA.com