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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    i don't think mystery made any different versions of it, but almost ever dating model is based off of mm ie (vin dicarlo's system(i forget exactly what its called) is basically mm without the comfort stage, instead he uses a Kino ladder to break strait from a3 to s1)

    i think every pua who started out using mm adapted it in some way to suit their needs and circumstances.

    @linking the clubs in the uk might be different, but if i indirect approached girls in the clubs here some AMOG would come along and go hardcore direct and steal my set. though Indirect Game can be effectively used in nightgame, direct works better where i'm from
    Yea, I've had buddies of mine walk up to girls that AFCs are trying to indirect game and just start making out with them. It's pretty funny to watch.

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Yea, I've had buddies of mine walk up to girls that AFCs are trying to Indirect Game and just start making out with them. It's pretty funny to watch.
    yeah, when i first started clubbing i made the same mistake. being too indirect was often seen as a sign of weekness and my sets got hijacked constantly. my new philosaphy is "go direct or go home" when it comes to clubbin, but i much rather prefer indirect day game at uni

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    yeah, when i first started clubbing i made the same mistake. being too indirect was often seen as a sign of weekness and my sets got hijacked constantly.
    that's only cause you wernt moving the set fast enough??

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    yeah, when i first started clubbing i made the same mistake. being too indirect was often seen as a sign of weekness and my sets got hijacked constantly.
    that's only cause you wernt moving the set fast enough??
    to be honest, i think that you have to be very entertaining to pull off Indirect Game in such an environment. and it almost feels like a shark tank when you are one of the only guys who is using indirect game. especialy if there are multiple amogs roming about the club (there is almost always at least 5 roming amogs at any given time in a club) they game simply by amogging other guys in front of girls to give themselves added value over you (you already opened the set for them) they are usualy naturals and unless you are one stone-cold bad @ss you won't be able to deal with all of them (especialy if you are at a venue that has more guys than girls)

    mystery methode has its place, but it is alot more work than its worth when you can just go direct and pull the girl before any amogs come along.

    mystery methode works best when you need to go "under the radar" to game girls who could be scared away by your Direct Game (like in college classes, or Hired Guns, or gaming girls from your social circles) but if you want to use it in clubs, it will give you a really hard crash course in dealing with amogs
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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Trust me mate, either things are different in the states or your just not dealing with AMOGs correctly, i have hardly any guys come up and try to AMOG me, this might be because I'm not a particularly small guy, also my body language is always quite expressive and confident so they don't want to try it. And tbh when they do try it they just get totally shot down and the girl is laughing with me at them. Indirect Game works really well in bars for me and in clubs off the dance floor, on the dance floor obv Direct Game is easy, but it's practically impossible to talk so u may as well.

    Linking x

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    I am not a huge student of MM but the stages he created (a3 and all that) are pretty much required reading. I had always seen my easiest pickups follow the same pattern of interaction so when i read mystery's stuff, it was a no brainer how right he was.

    I also find dicarlo's 8 women types are pretty true as well. You just got to take what u like from each school of thought.

    Its like real life... every expert can have a valid point on some things. You just have to decide for yourself what rings true. The basics of PUA are always consistent through all experts also
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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    this might be because I'm not a particularly small guy, also my body language is always quite expressive and confident so they don't want to try it.
    yeah, i am a pretty small guy. i am not the greatest AMOG or most entertaining guy (thus mm is harder for me to pull off in clubs) also i'm sure the us is different, and the clubs i frequent aren't very big (theres almost never more than 20-50 people in any of them) being in west virginia (rural state) has the disadvantage that the clubs are small.

    if you are so good at amoging why don't you post a thread about it? it would be totaly awesome if you would and i would appreciate it. amogging has never been my strong point (i am not a natural like so many of the other experts are) but i am getting better at it. if you actualy had a technique (any advice better than "be more confident than the other guy") it would be great if you would share it
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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Tbh meteora I don't have much more of a technique than that, I make sure I look confident, if they do try to come and take the girl I'm gaming then my favourite way to get rid of them is to give them an odd look then lean back and go 'no, you go on, take your shot, I don't mind honestly' make sure it sounds sarcastic. At this point they generally either try chatting her up, but it's awkward for them both then as she's wondering wtf is going on and he's under pressure, or he'll just walk off, or they get really pissed off and offensive with you which gets them blown out anyway.
    But like I said, I barely ever have an issue with them coming and trying it and other than looking confident I don't really know why that is :L lol

    Linking x

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    Yo wats with this spammer??? Same message on EVERY thread lol. Mods help please!

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    Default Re: mystery method out dated?

    I personally like mystery method ,but thats because i like Indirect Game .Mystery method is a great starting book, since he doe's teach the principals for attraction and how to attract the women,and from what i remember the principals of attraction never change. Also it seems for me that his method is most useful when you use it in a mixed group sets . thats why you do apply the negs (and in my opinion real masters of Pua don't need to use neg theory) So i think it's a great method ,but you just have to adapt your own style to it


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