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    Default "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Alright guys this is one thing that pisses me off about AFC that want to become pua's and MPUA's alike: we all know that we pick up women and love doing it and all that stuff. Some of us sometimes hit on women with boyfriends/try to commit the robbery, so now my big issue that gets me mad I'd when I hear that her bf tries to fight you guys and you punk out and look like a little B1tch. Come on now guys, you say you're an alpha yet you get publicly humiliated by guys. Real alpha stand and fight. Learn how to fight or atleast defend yourselves. No getting b1tched and then coming on here and telling us how he was so mean and wouldn't let you get your drinks and what not. Alpha= being a leader and fighting for what's right, not getting bullied and then crying about it afterwards and telling us like we have your answer that can solve your problem that ALREADY happened. My advice is to LEARN HOW TO DEFEND YOURSELF AND FIGHT WHEN YOU NEED TO. DO NOT LET A GUY MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A PU$$Y AND THEN CLAIM YOU'RE AN ALPHA!! THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Well till this day, I've yet to have been AMOG'd by anyone. I would fight because I love fighting, but I'm just never given the opportunity. I have a pretty intimidating face, and I have a football player build (240 pounds, lots of muscle, but some fat). I talk to girls with boyfriends with their boyfriends being there, and they're usually just quiet until the girl says "that's my boyfriend."

    Edit: With that said though, you want to be careful about the fights you get into. You just never know how crazy some people are, and you don't ever want to risk going to to jail either. So kind of going against what I said earlier, even if someone did try to pick a fight with me, I probably wouldn't fight them unless it was extremely serious. Then I'd gladly open up a can of whoop ass on some beta male or alpha male.

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    if you wanna go down the fight path, atleast make sure u know how many mates are with him and how many mates u have that will back u up (y) even numbers are better than being outnumbered or someone stepping out from the crowd with a bottle gg

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    I'm saying there are some people who claim to be alphas but end up getting b1tched in clubs and other places like that.. If you claim to be an alpha you got to have the whole package including learning how to stand your ground when some chump calls you out where there are people watching and other would be women you might want to hit on next.
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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    I don't agree with this. I have had plenty of problems with guys trying to fight me at party's. They didn't necessarily have gf's that I was hitting on...it was just random jealousy I think. I never fight, but I also don't back down. I tell them what I think and that what they are doing is bs. "Everybody is here to have a good time man, lets just have a good time. I'm not fighting you." Then walk away. You come out as the bigger man and he looks like a beta who is controlled by his emotions. I would fight if I REALLY had to but it's not necessary 99 percent of the time. I've picked up many women after that's happened.

    If you fight your possibly getting beat up, killed, or arrested. It's not worth it.

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    I don't agree either... You don't need to physically fight to be an alpha, hell look at every country's leader. The most powerful tool in your toolbox is the ability to negotiate / talk your way out a bad situation.

    Don't misunderstand me either, I'm not saying that you should never fight. Stand up for what you think is right, just don't be stupid about how you do it. If you have to get into a physical fight, be smart, and make sure the law is on your side. For example: some douche starts doing what he does best, being a douche and c blocking you, if you know you can take him, talk shit back and aggravate him to the point where he throws the first punch; this way the law is backing you if you knock his ass out because you were acting in self defense. Don't go out trying to start fights either unless it truly is warranted.

    Also, there's a place and time to fight. A place to fight is not in a club or bar, thats obviously just going to get your butt kicked out along with his. Use your common sense.

    Women are not only attracted to strong men, but men who prove that they can handle any situation while maintaining his cool and not becoming overly emotional.

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Haha, this used to be me a few years back. Honestly dude, I doubt you have been arrested yet but it's not fun. It was cool when I was younger but looking back at it it's just moronic. Plus, I could have gotten killed.

    If you have to defend yourself do it, but avoiding the fight is the best thing you can do.

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Alright, I haven't read any of the responses but this rubbed me the wrong way a little bit so I wanted to reply.

    Now the reason this bothers me is because your demonstrating pretty clearly that you think alpha = testosterone.

    This isn't the case at all. Now you are partly right in saying that you have to fight for what you believe in. I agree with this however I don't think you know what you believe in. Being firm on your beliefs is alpha.

    I also like to game women with boyfriends because I get to practice my boyfriend destroyer obviously but less obviously because of the relationship benefits to myself. If I can get her to cheat, I dont want her. If I can't then down the road a bit when they break up I know she's a loyal option. Also because if I can get her to cheat I don't have to worry about he calling me or adding me on fb.

    Now, The first thing that you learn as a pua is to adopt the Mindset of abundance. This being said, why do you feel it's necessary to fight a guy over the girl he's dating when you can go to the next room and steal a different guys girlfriend? In my opinion no one girl is worth my fighting over for sex. If she's getting beat because of it, that's a different story. Now just because I'm not going to fight the guy over her doesn't mean I'm gonna look beta. It honestly isn't that hard to get out of fighting a guy while making him look bad.

    If you do fight, he's fighting for his girl, and your fighting to take his girl. It doesn't matter that your fighting for your honor, you still look like an @sshole, plus you'll look even worse when you get your ass beat.
    If i get a guy some a$$, he gets it for a day; if i teach him how to get it for himself, he's tappin forever

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirectIsBest View Post
    I don't agree with this. I have had plenty of problems with guys trying to fight me at party's. They didn't necessarily have gf's that I was hitting on...it was just random jealousy I think. I never fight, but I also don't back down. I tell them what I think and that what they are doing is bs. "Everybody is here to have a good time man, lets just have a good time. I'm not fighting you." Then walk away. You come out as the bigger man and he looks like a beta who is controlled by his emotions. I would fight if I REALLY had to but it's not necessary 99 percent of the time. I've picked up many women after that's happened.

    If you fight your possibly getting beat up, killed, or arrested. It's not worth it.

    Exactly what I was going to say. But with a couple more suggestions on not creating confrontational situations.

    Open everyone in the venue, focus on being a cool guy with a ton of social proof and you'll not have this problem.

    Talk to the guys in mixed sets too. If the girl is single and interested her male friends can be your biggest advocates, and will almost always allow escalation.

    Last thing is your wing should be there to diffuse the situation.
    Last night my wing was chatting up a girl and I was talking with her boyfriend. He started getting a little upset and broke frame to say in a hostile tone "Hey man, she's with me!" He actually started to get out of his chair.

    I looked over, watched my boy escalating and the girl responding for a moment, laughed out loud, then turned back to this 6'4" 240 pound guy who looks like Fabio and said "They're cool man." and resumed conversing comfortably. A moment later he resumed my frame.

    Later in the night he gave me social value in front of some other cuties I was flirting with by slapping hands and saying goodbye.

    Violence preempted, fun continued, everyone was happy.
    Last edited by MiikusMaximus; 10-21-2013 at 08:12 PM. Reason: Disambiguation

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    Default Re: "alpha males" / all pua need to learn this.

    Marvilo you're an idiot...

    You don't fight people, this isn't gta. Besides do you ever see someone chalenge and fight the alfa male? No? Exactly, the alpha male is not supposed to fight anyone, people either respect you, or you're just not the alpha.


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