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    Default Herbalife

    Hey guys,

    Recently I got in contact with a fitness coach who's working for herbalife. His salespitch definitely was convincing, yet I am not convinced about the price their charging.

    My main purpose for starting with a nutrition diet, is to get more energy during work. Getting more muscle growth isn't required at all. I just want to gain more focus on a natural way (supplements).

    1. Does anyone has some advice on wheter or not Herbalife is worth the money?
    2. Are there better alternatives?
    3. Where can I learn more about this?


    Thanks !!

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    Are there better alternatives?
    yes.

    if you want more energy there are a few things you can do that will give you more energy than any "herbal supplements"

    1. cut caffeine, nicotine, toreine, and any other stimulants you may be using on a regular basis. ( relying on stimulants keeps your body from producing as much natural energy since it is getting energy from the stimulant)

    btw the first week without caffeine is the hardest, but after that you will have a lot more energy.

    2. get at least a half hour of cardiovascular exercise every day. (this will keep your heart in good shape and help to maintain healthy blood pressure levels)

    3. drink at least a 12 glasses of water every day. (staying well hydrated will help you to have good blood preasure and thus more energy)

    4. curb masturbation. I know its hard, but you should try to at least get it down to once a week. you will find that the more days you go without doing it, the more energy you will have. ( this will help you to maintain higher levels of testosterone witch will give you tons of energy)

    5. cut your sugar intake, if you drink soda or beer all the time, try cutting back. (same goes for eating potatoes, bread and pasta) too much glucose in your bloodstream can cause poorer circulation and can even result in blood clouts.

    Does anyone has some advice on wheter or not Herbalife is worth the money?
    -if its a diet pill, its probably not going to help you any.
    -if its a stimulant, you're just going to be dependent on it to have any energy.

    I know from seeing my parents use virtually every diet pill on the market. most have little or no effect.

    I don't know much about herbalife, but I'm sure its probably little more than caffeine pills.

    put in the work, do the 5 things I suggested and you will be healthier and have more energy than any pill could ever give you.

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    Thanks for those tips, but the "problem" is I do everything you listed..

    1) never smoked, never drink coffee
    2) Every day I do 15 minutes of setups or chest workout (passion4profession level 3) + I cycle/swim around 8-10 hours/week
    3) Currently drinking 4-5 liter of water a day
    4) not an issue, what if a girl does it for me?
    5) Since 3 months I don't drink any soda. Stopped drinking alcohol since 1 month.

    I was not planning to take any dietpills, since I don't want to go on a diet (I'm well shaped). This 'diet' would be based on taking shakes (supplements I guess?) in between your breakfast, lunch & dinner.

    I have also been considering buying a blender to make some healthy smoothies..? Is that worth it? You have any good sources where I can read some more about this?

    Cheers man!

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    Thanks for those tips, but the "problem" is I do everything you listed..

    1) never smoked, never drink coffee
    2) Every day I do 15 minutes of setups or chest workout (passion4profession level 3) + I cycle/swim around 8-10 hours/week
    3) Currently drinking 4-5 liter of water a day
    4) not an issue, what if a girl does it for me?
    5) Since 3 months I don't drink any soda. Stopped drinking alcohol since 1 month.
    you've got me stumped, you should have plenty of energy. the only other thing I can think of is that maybe you're not getting enough sleep?

    (do you get a full 10 hours of sleep most nights?)

    I have also been considering buying a blender to make some healthy smoothies..? Is that worth it? You have any good sources where I can read some more about this?
    yeah, protein shakes and smoothies should be good as long as you keep working out.

    (I currently drink a protein shake before my workout every day)(it helps me not to be as sore afterwards)

    You have any good sources where I can read some more about this?
    I'd recommend you subscribe to "men's health" magazine. it always seems to have good stuff about general fitness, diet, sex, and other health related topics. (its my main source for learning about bettering my health)

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    ohh, I don't sleep that much... maximum 7 hours/night. Most of the days its 5...

    It's just really hard to combine my current job with sporting + dating. I'm studying PUA when I'm in my car... because I simply don't have enough time.

    Thanks for your advice !! Will subscribe to men's health, looks good

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    Herbalife is a multi-level market, which is most likely the cause of inflated pricing. I can't say much about Herbalife, but I can about Amway, and I know as a direct seller you have to ability to set your own profit margin (within reason, up to 35% pending). Again, not knowing anything about the Herbalife business model and pay method/scale, Amway has a bonus payment method based on a percent of total sales team volume, which should be your primary goal if you're thinking long term rather than highballing customers like this guy might be doing, or even with discounted prices it's still high, which is still probably true.

    Note that what I'm about to say comes from this point of view: I used to sell Amway products but no longer do; however, I still purchase quite a few products from a friend who still does.

    As a college student I pay about $70 a month (55 for the product plus s/h) for their premium multivitamin. It works better than prescription drugs ever have for me in providing energy and helping with depression.

    That's my personal bias. I hear a lot of good things about Consumer Lab providing nonbiased information on products but I think you have to pay for it, although it would probably be worth it.
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    Default Re: Herbalife

    My dad started herbalife a while back, but just the protein shake and meal replacement. I've tried it a few times as a meal replacement, but it does nothing for you in terms of energy (at least in my experience).

    The ingredients themselves don't appear different from whatever else you'll find in any other protein powder. I say the energy you would feel (if you feel it) is a placebo, anyway. The best alternative for more energy during your workout is caffeine (pill or black coffee) and hour prior to exercising. Or blast some UMF beats (Garix, Ozcan, etc) and you're gonna fly through the roof
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    Default Re: Herbalife

    Every 'body' is different. For myself nutrition is the #1 reason for how I'm feeling and how much energy I have.
    1. Avoid anything that causes inflammation including sugar and gluten. So... most things that are not fresh ingredients
    2. Avoid trans fats.
    3. Use a nutrition calculator. I use the one at self.com but there are many others. Basically look at what you are eating and have all your vitamins, minerals without too much of the bad things.

    Outside of nutrition:
    - Your hormones play a huge part. Learn about them, use them to your advantage. This will involve getting a good amount of sleep, timing when you sleep and eat, exercise etc.
    - Cardio is awesome
    - You may be allergic to something you are eating. Some allergies don't show up on tests because they have no physical symptoms but only mental ones like draining your energy for example.
    - Toxicity is another thing to look out for. Many foods are contaminated - plants with pesticides... unhealthy animals generally have less healthy meat. Tuna and large predatory fish have crazy amounts of mercury.

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    ohh, I don't sleep that much... maximum 7 hours/night. Most of the days its 5...

    It's just really hard to combine my current job with sporting + dating. I'm studying PUA when I'm in my car... because I simply don't have enough time.
    ah ha! that would explain the lack of energy.

    I think you're pulling yourself in too many directions. running on 5 hours of sleep would drag anyone down.

    your body needs sleep so it can recover from all the stress of the previous day and to help balance your hormones. when you go on little sleep, your body is getting worn down gradually with each passing day.

    look, you're going to have to slow down. you may have to spend less time sporting and less time dating in order to get that sleep, but the health benefits of sleep will make you feel greater vitality.

    also, you may want to think about the job your in. do they work you more than 40 hours a week? is it a salary job that demands too much of your time? if so you may also consider getting a job that allows you to have more free time.

    sleep well tonight.
    cheers!

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    Default Re: Herbalife

    It's likely your diet and your sleeping cycle. Although, many other factors could be at play.

    I'm curious what you eat for breakfast? This is the number one problem for most people who lack energy during the day.

    Take a look at this article on breakfast. Charles Poliquin is one of the most respected strength coaches in the world.

    But as far as herbalife is concerned. Skip that shit. You can find better products on your own that do better things. These sales companies are basically pyramid schemes.

    I'm tempted to write a post on fitness, nutrition, and supplements. Curious if there's any interest?
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