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    qwert Guest

    Default What do you think?

    I am on a quest to loose weight. I'm a male, 29yr, 184cm and ~90kg. I am going to the gym daily, I am doing strength exercises one day yes one no, and cardio every day. Also, I am using L-Carnitine, Animal Cuts and Amino Liquid. I dunno exactly how healthy these are but I have friends who are using them for years! I will use them for a month.

    Do you think it is OK to use these for a month and keep training without? Will I see some result in one month? My friends are telling me that I will definitely see some positive results.

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    Verbalcody Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    When it comes to the gym there is nothing you can take for quick results. You have to get there 4 times a week, every week, all the time. Results come SLOW.

    I recommend a great training program like P90x.

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    Instinct Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    Don't worry about those 3. Just have 4 protein shakes per day, with 1/2 tbsp of creatin monohydrate in each one. Those are all totally safe supplements, all found in natural foods. The best fat burner still legally available is Lipolyze and Somalyze without question. I have gotten guys in great shape working out 2 days a week, if you are progressing in how much you are lifting, and eating enough, and doing enough cardio you will get in shape. It is way easier than people think. That said, the program that I had beginners doing was 4 days a week, and I guarantee you would get quicker results than any other program on the market, lol, but I dont really want to type it all up.

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    qwert Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    What if I will have only those 3? I am eating vegetables and fruits and each morning I have cereals with milk. Is that enough?
    Until now I was doing cardio each day but I feel that this is to much, I read some materials where they suggest to do less but really intense. They suggest that I should train 40-50 minutes, 3 or 4 times a week and cardio should be only 10 or 15 minutes.

    Even though I take those 3 supplements, I train really hard, I usually stay 2-3 hours in the gym. ~50 minutes of weight lifting stuff and 1 hour of cardio, sometimes two.

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    Instinct Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by qwert View Post
    What if I will have only those 3? I am eating vegetables and fruits and each morning I have cereals with milk. Is that enough?
    Until now I was doing cardio each day but I feel that this is to much, I read some materials where they suggest to do less but really intense. They suggest that I should train 40-50 minutes, 3 or 4 times a week and cardio should be only 10 or 15 minutes.

    Even though I take those 3 supplements, I train really hard, I usually stay 2-3 hours in the gym. ~50 minutes of weight lifting stuff and 1 hour of cardio, sometimes two.
    You can have them if you want, I am just saying, you can get them way cheaper in food. They arent dangerous. Amino Liquid is just digest milk, L-carnitine is just a synthetic amino acid found in fish. Animal Cuts are mostly useless uppers and diuretics (the choline and inositol are very usefull though).

    Stop doing so much god damn cardio! You need more protein, and less cardio.


    The way I was training people, had a 4 week growth phase, with 15 minutes of jogging, nothing too crazy, after working out, then a week off, then 4 weeks of very intense circuit training, upping the rep numbers from about 4 reps at a certain weight in one day, all the way up to 100 reps, with up to 10 minutes of interval sprinting., followed by a week off and then start over. We did this for 40-45 weeks and then we decided we either needed to loose more fat (by this time they were usually pretty lean, but if they started really over weight, they might not be low enough yet) or build more muscle ( Also, they had probably build a good 30 lbs of muscle if they had never worked out before, but they might still be 30 lbs underweight if they started 60lbs under weight).

    The goal is to average about 30-40lbs of fat lost, with about 20-30lbs of muscle gained. A high end athelete cant get these kind of gains naturally, this is for beginners.
    Last edited by Instinct; 02-15-2010 at 09:02 AM.

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    qwert Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    I know that you said:
    That said, the program that I had beginners doing was 4 days a week, and I guarantee you would get quicker results than any other program on the market, lol, but I dont really want to type it all up.
    .. but I'll give it a try anyways. Will you please send me that program? I am curious.

    Thaaanks!

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    Instinct Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by qwert View Post
    I know that you said:


    .. but I'll give it a try anyways. Will you please send me that program? I am curious.

    Thaaanks!
    I cant send it, because I never wrote it down!! We can skype sometime and I will give you the details, or if some other people really want it, I might even write it down.

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    qwert Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    I am sure that there are people interested in this program. It would be nice to share it.

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    Default Re: What do you think?

    I would be interested in it as well. I was lifting for a solid 4-5 months or so before last summer and definitely saw some improvements. I put on about 10lbs of muscle ( a lot for me because i dont weigh much to begin with) but i moved and lost the gym in my building so i stopped. All my hard work is gone now but i believe i can put it back on much faster. I just started again and was keeping it simple doing a week of squat sets to get me back at it. Soon i will change it into a real routine and would like to check your program out instict.

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    Instinct Guest

    Default Re: What do you think?

    It's a great program, but if you are already in advanced shape, this isn't for you. The weights required for you to make progress wont work with this. This is for loosing the FIRST 40lbs and building the FIRST 20lbs, after that, you need a more intermediate program.

    It's a 45 week program, (could take a few more weeks per individual), you would have to dedicate yourself, completely, to doing those 45 weeks. The first 5 weeks aren't even in a gym, they are in a local park, I did this so that you could loose about 10lbs and get some strength built before you walked into a gym the first time, so that you aren't so intimidated. You should be able to put about 40-80lbs on most of your lifts in the 45 weeks, while building speed and endurance.

    But you have to do the program exact, and eat the proper diet that I would include. That is nearly a year commitment to a program.
    Last edited by Instinct; 02-15-2010 at 10:24 AM.


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